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Chatham twat arrested after opening fire at random from balcony

From the picture in the article, it looks like two of the guns are air pistols, one pistol is an airsoft gun and the semi auto gun is also (probably) airsoft. The blue on the slides and stock are 'two toning', a legal requirement if you purchase an airsoft gun without having a recognised 'defense' ie usage of an airsoft club, tv/film requirements etc. The pistol at the bottom could also be airsoft, the slide colour looks a bit off, like a darker paint has been applied to a two tone finish. From that pic alone I'm unsure as to whether the ammo is metal BBs or something else. Someone with more knowledge/experience would be able to say as to why there is 'fire' coming from the pistol.

It's idiots like this that lead to further restrictions on people who use these guns for sport/hobby.

Is the gun he was firing illegal?
 
One even ended up with a broken leg in the woods screaming for a medic for hours in true 'Nam style :eek:

(There'd been gridlock on the M25 that day and it took ages for the ambulance to reach the paintballing centre...)
Ah, so "airsoft" is paintball. I had wondered. I did it for a while with a bunch of pub mates many years ago. We were rubbish and had to find sites that did special days for shite pub players. It was fun in an odd way.
 
Ah, so "airsoft" is paintball. I had wondered. I did it for a while with a bunch of pub mates many years ago. We were rubbish and had to find sites that did special days for shite pub players. It was fun in an odd way.
It looks like paintball without the paint. They shoot little pellets at each other.
 
Is the gun he was firing illegal?

If what he had was only airsoft/air guns, no they are not illegal to fire on your own property or property registered for the purpose of sport/hobby. It is illegal if you are using any of those guns for the purpose of harming others (or implying harm). Even excluding the legal aspect, what this guy did was well into the realms of full-blown dickhead. Even if he had a little plastic 'toy gun' they should never be used in the manner he was using them. Waving them around on the balcony is exceedingly stupid; firing them just levels up to a whole new world of fuckery. He is lucky he wasn't shot by the police.

One quick note - The one he was firing in the video spitfire linked to, that's firing some form of projectile that is more than just a bb or pellet (there is what appears to be casings ejecting from the gun after each shot). So, depending on what that is, it could potentially be illegal - to own or to fire.
 
If what he had was only airsoft/air guns, no they are not illegal to fire on your own property or property registered for the purpose of sport/hobby. It is illegal if you are using any of those guns for the purpose of harming others (or implying harm). Even excluding the legal aspect, what this guy did was well into the realms of full-blown dickhead. Even if he had a little plastic 'toy gun' they should never be used in the manner he was using them. Waving them around on the balcony is exceedingly stupid; firing them just levels up to a whole new world of fuckery. He is lucky he wasn't shot by the police.

One quick note - The one he was firing in the video spitfire linked to, that's firing some form of projectile that is more than just a bb or pellet (there is what appears to be casings ejecting from the gun after each shot). So, depending on what that is, it could potentially be illegal - to own or to fire.
Am I correct that airsoft guns shoot plastic pellets that don't leave a mark? If so, how do you know you've hit someone/been hit?
 
Am I correct that airsoft guns shoot plastic pellets that don't leave a mark? If so, how do you know you've hit someone/been hit?

You are right. They are either plastic or a biodegradable compressed fabric mix. They do not normally leave marks, but if hit a few times in the same sport you can get brusing. The level of 'damage' is a few degrees less than that you'd usually get doing paintball.

As for knowing when you've hit someone, or vice versa, it works on an honour system where you put your hand up and your out of that game (or particular part of it).
 
... you put your hand up and your out of that game (or particular part of it).
Ah, ok. Can you not let out a blood curdling scream and fall dramatically clutching the wound?

Also, what if you're hit in the leg? That's probably not a kill shot so do you just have to limp around for the rest of the game? Or hop?

I've just been looking on here and see that you have plastic knives for knife attacks (where permitted). How do they work? It's probably quite hard to kill someone with a knife. How do you know when they're dead?
 
Ah, ok. Can you not let out a blood curdling scream and fall dramatically clutching the wound?

Also, what if you're hit in the leg? That's probably not a kill shot so do you just have to limp around for the rest of the game? Or hop?

I've just been looking on here and see that you have plastic knives for knife attacks (where permitted). How do they work? It's probably quite hard to kill someone with a knife. How do you know when they're dead?

You could do the falling/screaming etc etc and as an added bonus you could look forward to getting kicked out of not only the game but possibly the site as well.

I've only ever personally played (usually skermishes) were it's a one shot and your out rule. This is the case for most styles of the game that I'm aware off. The key reasons? It dosent complicate gameplay with multiple 'hit' rules and it also enables a smoother gameplay, as your not having to keep tally of where you have been hit and how it relates to the style of game you are playing. It speeds up gameplay, especially for capture the flag and death match games. It also helps reduce cheating. For example, if it's a point based multi shot game, someone could easily exclude a lower leg hit. Other people may witness the hit, but are unaware of that person's 'hit count'. If it's a one shot and your out game, simple.

As for the plastic knifes, they are pretty rarely seen them in airsoft games I've been participating in or have watched. I had a look on the website you linked to, they only offer 4 plastic knifes and most airsoft shops don't even offer that. Some games allow them, others dont. If you can get close enough to someone with the plastic knife you can touch them with it and it would count as a hit. Getting this close does not happen often. They are also used as bayonets, often on historical replica airsoft rifles.

That's probably enough chat on airsoft on this thread. I'm sure no one is dying to do so but if you want to ask me anything else about it probably best to do it elsewhere on the site??!!
 
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You could do the falling/screaming etc etc and as an added bonus you could look forward to getting kicked out of not only the game but possibly the site as well.

I've only ever personally played (usually skermishes) were it's a one shot and your out rule. This is the case for most styles of the game that I'm aware off. The key reasons? It dosent complicate gameplay with multiple 'hit' rules and it also enables a smoother gameplay, as your not having to keep tally of where you have been hit and how it relates to the style of game you are playing. It speeds up gameplay, especially for capture the flag and death match games. It also helps reduce cheating. For example, if it's a point based multi shot game, someone could easily exclude a lower leg hit. Other people may witness the hit, but are unaware of that person's 'hit count'. If it's a one shot and your out game, simple.

As for the plastic knifes, they are pretty rarely seen them in airsoft games I've been participating in or have watched. I had a look on the website you linked to, they only offer 4 plastic knifes and most airsoft shops don't even offer that. Some games allow them, others dont. If you can get close enough to someone with the plastic knife you can touch them with it and it would count as a hit. Getting this close does not happen often. They are also used as bayonets, often on historical replica airsoft rifles.

That's probably enough chat on airsoft on this thread. I'm sure no one is dying to do so but if you want to ask me anything else about it probably best to do it elsewhere on the site??!!
What about the grenades? How do you know whether someone was hit with the shrapnel, or whether they cunningly used a 'friend' as a shield?
My mate owns a CNC engineering company, and he was asked recently to design/make some of these grenades. He asked me to get involved, as I do a lot with electronics. He was asking me to design the trigger mechanism for the grenade, and I came up with a solution fairly quickly, but I couldn't figure out how you decide whether or not someone was hit with shrapnel from the grenade. I suggested adding black powder and a detonator to make it more realistic, and easier to tell who had been hit, as there would be actual physical evidence, in the form of lacerations and missing bits, but he was having none of it. So how do you decide who has been hit when you launch a grenade?
 
One quick note - The one he was firing in the video spitfire linked to, that's firing some form of projectile that is more than just a bb or pellet (there is what appears to be casings ejecting from the gun after each shot).
Firing blanks will do that.
 
It looks like paintball without the paint. They shoot little pellets at each other.
So it’s just another word for airgun? I don’t remember them being that noisy. I got a dart in my arse once from one of those. It hurt and bled a bit but wasn’t that bad, but I didn’t know this when Darren Kemp drew it out of his bag in his box room and shot me with it point blank. Will never forget it
 
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