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Wish it could get the same hype as a superhero blockbuster. Wouldn't that be brilliant? But just wait until the mainstream right leaning press get their teeth into it.
Ken Loache's film, I Daniel Blake, (Film about uk benefit regime) wins Palme d'Or.
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existentialist
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Streisand. The more they inveigh against it, the more of a "phenomenon" it becomes.
The worst thing they can do is ignore it. Let's hope they're unable to resist the temptation to rip in.
Flanflinger
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existentialist
Tired and unemotional
But I'd rather hope and be wrong...
DJWrongspeed
radio eros
Good year for the Brits, Andrea Arnold won the Jury prize.
extra dry
Happy to be here
I just watched the video of the press conference for the film. (Thanks Rutita1) It was a very worthwhile 39 minutes. It enabled Ken and his crew to explain the background to the film and their method and motivation in making it. Interestingly one of the questioners asked about the Brexit or Bremain problem. Ken got straight to the point about the EU being at root a neoliberal economic system but that leaving the EU would not necessarily improve matters because it would likely leave us in the hands of yet another neoliberal political party trying to "race to the bottom" in competition with other states. If you can find the time do watch the video.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Even (what's left of) The Independent is saying that Loach's victory amounts to everyone else at Cannes being robbed.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
twats. We used to call it kitchen sink or realism
So Loach made the best - most popular film according to the judges. That doesn't sound like robbery to me. "We was robbed" is not what you expect from the Indy.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
these are the winners of the palme d'or since 2006. i have only heard of two of them, both the ken loach films. winning the palme d'or does sadly not guarantee widespread viewing or awareness of the fact.
belboid
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Lots of them did very well, for films not in the English language. All worth seeing, tho some took a while to get a distribution deal (Dheepan has only just played over here, for instance).
Turns out I know one of the leads in I, Daniel Blake. She kept that quiet (while also complaining of not having any work)
youngian
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Shows what you can do if you put your top people into competition. Eurovision take note.
DJWrongspeed
radio eros
i drifted off a bit during 'Winter Sleep' but otherwise all are worth viewing if anyone is looking for recommendations.
Tree of Life had a big widespread release, perhaps that breaks the mold.
Treacle Toes
Time
When is this going to be released in the UK? We need to see it.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
The post directly above yours says October 21st...
I saw a French film at the cinema the other week - The Measure of a Man (Loi du marché) - which was about a bloke on the dole being forced to take a crap job, job centre sending him on unsuitable courses, bad working conditions etc
It seems to have been at Cannes last year according to Wikipedia but for me it was interesting to see the parallels in the French experience.
It seems to have been at Cannes last year according to Wikipedia but for me it was interesting to see the parallels in the French experience.
I, Daniel Blake: Ken Loach and the scandal of Britain’s benefits system
Major piece on the film, with reviews by various people, including Mark Littlewood!
Don't think it will have the impact Cathy Come Home did, the liberal left have changed their affections.
Major piece on the film, with reviews by various people, including Mark Littlewood!
Don't think it will have the impact Cathy Come Home did, the liberal left have changed their affections.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
yes, because that is all that has changed since 1966, you fucking halfwit
Why so defensive?
of course there are other reasons, neo-liberalism, destruction of the welfare state, demonisation of claimants, etc, but i am saying the sort of people who were enraged by CCH and acted, creation of shelter, etc, will not act, they have moved on primarily to identity politics.
disagree?
of course there are other reasons, neo-liberalism, destruction of the welfare state, demonisation of claimants, etc, but i am saying the sort of people who were enraged by CCH and acted, creation of shelter, etc, will not act, they have moved on primarily to identity politics.
disagree?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I'm not defensive. i am simply pointing out that that was one of your dumbest comments ever. Even for you, it was fucking stupid.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I expect there were people saying exactly the same kind of thing when Cathy Come Home was released. These things are not as predictable or logical as people like to think.
The wheels are already coming off the benefits steamroller - already, DWP is a lot less frantically macho about its policies, and that will only continue as the evidence that the assault on claimants has, far from producing any demonstrable improvements (not that it ever would have), is in fact costing more to implement than it saves (as lots of people thought it would).
These things don't move logically, they stagger from tipping point to tipping point. I think we are due one of those, and it might just be that this film coincides with one. It may even play a part in it.
The one thing that no correlation exists with is the level of handwringing.
I agree it is floundering, but that may partly due to the instability of not having a Minister in place for a decent period, if it is, apart from say, John McDonnell, it is down to small groups of dedicated people:, DPAC, Benefit Fightback, Boycott Workfare, former DWP staff turned whistleblowers, some parts of Unite Community, bloggers, and individuals, not the organised left(such as it is), or even the new Corbyn left going by turnout last week, not the activist culture which has never since the JSA days (yes i was campaigning then on these issues, snide comment noted)) took much interest in Uk affairs, not the Unions for the most part(see above though), maybe it will change with this film, I hope so.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Why did a television programme - almost the first of its kind in this country - shown when there were only two channels, and seen by millions, at a time when there was a rising, powerful left and a Labour government...why did that have a bigger influence than a film for the cinema, not even shown in most multiplexes, in an age when the left is, lets be generous, on the backfoot, under a right wing tory government?
The hardest thing to work out is my grammar in that sentence.
The hardest thing to work out is my grammar in that sentence.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I gave your post (which wasn't a question) the answer it deserves with a moments thought
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