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on the other hand at least there will be enough guns for when he is put up against a wall like ceaușescu
Keir Starmer's time is up
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It is also remarkable to see the Daily Mail jumping ship (or as close to it as they are ever going to get regarding Labour). Even they have abandoned any pretense of the Tories possibly keeping power at the next GE.
Gramsci
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Labour aims to raise defence spending to 2.5% of GDP
Starmer’s comments come before visit to Barrow, where he is to promise nuclear deterrent is ‘bedrock’ of security planwww.theguardian.com
I’d rather we spend on the NHS, housing and education not nuclear missiles and war.
The emphasis is on aims "as soon as resources allow". But then this is what he's said about all government spending if he gets into power:
Keir Starmer: Labour ‘won’t turn on spending taps’ if it wins election
Labour leader to warn that Britain is in worst economic state for over 50 years and spending will need to be constrained
He and Reeves are saying growth in economy will mean they will be able to spend more.
In this Guardian article about increasing defence spending he is laying himself open to attacks when he gets into power and says cannot do this now. This is Starmer all over.
I regard this statement on defence as similar to one on Green policies . He says one thing now and then later says its not possible. Says what he thinks will make him popular at a particular point but does not really mean it.
If election starts he is going to be questioned on this more seriously. And wonder what he will say.
Gramsci
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Also some of his comment on defence spending will go down well with some Labour voters.
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He said this about my home town a while back.
And in the Guardian article on defence spending says this.
In Plymouth this will go down well.
Plymouth is divided on class lines. With area around Dockyard etc being fairly deprived Council wards. Its not a rich town. Also divided by Brexit. With Brexit vote in less well off bits. A left behind seaside town. Looks poorer to me when I visit than when I grew up there.
When I grew up there in 70s a lot of the kids I went to school with assumed they would follow their father to a job in Dockyard.
Which was proper apprenticeship and secure work. High status job then.
Due to the concentration of working class around Dockyard/ Barbican Plymouth is unusual compared to rest of Devon.
Dockyard will remain 'safe with Labour', says Keir Starmer
The Labour Party leader visited the city on Monday as part of his energy price cap freeze announcement
He said this about my home town a while back.
And in the Guardian article on defence spending says this.
In Plymouth this will go down well.
Plymouth is divided on class lines. With area around Dockyard etc being fairly deprived Council wards. Its not a rich town. Also divided by Brexit. With Brexit vote in less well off bits. A left behind seaside town. Looks poorer to me when I visit than when I grew up there.
When I grew up there in 70s a lot of the kids I went to school with assumed they would follow their father to a job in Dockyard.
Which was proper apprenticeship and secure work. High status job then.
Due to the concentration of working class around Dockyard/ Barbican Plymouth is unusual compared to rest of Devon.
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Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
The thing about percentages of GDP ...
ska invita
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Lolz
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teqniq
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They are the Patriotic Alternative
andysays
Love and solidarity
Apart from obvious issues with the whole "patriotism" thing, why is he choosing to stress English rather than Britishness?
Is it a deliberate snub for Scotland and Wales, or has he just forgotten about them?
Elpenor
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The first paragraph is particularly nauseating and it then gets progressively worse
Disagreement not possible in the Labour Party itself however as a few suspended MPs could tell you
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
When I see English football fans throwing plastic chairs around the city centres of Germany this summer I’ll think of Sir Keif and the Labour Party
mojo pixy
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Ol' Keir said:
It's a place we can disagree, call each other cunts, get into some pushing argy-bargy, have a stupid fight, get held back by our mates shouting it aint worth it, call each other cunts even louder, you key my car and I post a bag of flaming dog shit through your letterbox. Then we go to court and end up with ASBOs and suspended jail sentences. If you're lucky I don't get my cousins involved.
Great place for disagreements
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Yes. Let's not forget the 6 counties tho
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Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Love to spend my time being called an unrealistic unreasonable leftie for suggesting we be nicer to people and use random slurs. Maybe nationalise some species for a treat.
Makes me a hoot at parties.
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Its St Georges Day on Tuesday.... As you should well know...why do you hate England so much? If you dont like it LEAVE
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I note the flag is not an England one wholly, it is a Rushden and diamonds flag.
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There is no st keir.
ska invita
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yes but expelled Labour members, councillors, and MPs can lie back, think of England, and "enjoy a shared future together" under Starmers Iron Boot.
Fair play to Starmer, he's going to make the trains run on time.
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Not to mention good taste
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
looks like he's after some of the RefUK-curious twats, tbh
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
Yes this feels like it is targeted at Tory voters who are either not going to vote at all or switching to reform
lazythursday
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I read a theory about this a while back. Political parties tend to do focus groups of wavering voters rather than those already committed. At this point, Labour's lead is so huge that those swing voters are extremely right wing. They don't actually need any more of them but the stupid mechanics of all this means they drive the agenda.
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the mechanism is that the labour party is run by cunts
you dont have to court every right wing cunt with more right wing crap unless you actually chose to do so
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