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Keir Starmer's time is up

Unherd is a cesspit but seemingly the one place willing to publish Michael Crick's reportage on the vote rigging for selections

do they really need to bother with that? usually, central office just disbars anyone who's local and remotely left wing from being on the list of candidates before it gets to the local party members having a vote...
 
Starmer has clearly had much help here in preparing for PMQs but entertaining none the less.
Blair would've improvised.


Easy to nail Rishi this week but what is there for the disillusioned voters ?
 
Oh dear, nevermind.

14 point swing in Starmer's own constituency. This could be fun, if you were going to bet on any London constituency going Green Camden would be pretty high up the list. And if Corbyn stands as independent in Islington next door support for him is likely to leak over and increase anti Starmer sentiment. Expect the Greens will throw a lot at this. It could rattle him if nothing else.
 
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14 point swing in Starmer's own constituency. This could be fun, if you were going to bet on any London constituency going Green Camden would be pretty high up the list. And if Corbyn stands as independent in Islington next door support for him is likely to leak over and increase anti Starmer sentiment. Expect the Greens will throw a lot at this. It could rattle him if nothing else.
come on. It was Sian Berry's seat. Y'know, one of the five most famous Green's in the country. Anything other than a massive Green win would be shocking.
 
14 point swing in Starmer's own constituency. This could be fun, if you were going to bet on any London constituency going Green Camden would be pretty high up the list. And if Corbyn stands as independent in Islington next door support for him is likely to leak over and increase anti Starmer sentiment. Expect the Greens will throw a lot at this. It could rattle him if nothing else.
The Greens seem to be entirely concentrating on trying to keep hold of their council seats in the north of the constituency. They have done absolutely nothing in the rest of it. If they were going to make any attempt to win the Parliamentary seat then Berry would have been the candidate. She's going for Brighton Pavilion instead. They are solely chasing Brighton Pavilion and the new seat in Bristol that Thangam Debonnaire is Labour candidate for. Much to the consternation of Green Party members I know elsewhere in the country.
 
The Greens seem to be entirely concentrating on trying to keep hold of their council seats in the north of the constituency. They have done absolutely nothing in the rest of it. If they were going to make any attempt to win the Parliamentary seat then Berry would have been the candidate. She's going for Brighton Pavilion instead. They are solely chasing Brighton Pavilion and the new seat in Bristol that Thangam Debonnaire is Labour candidate for. Much to the consternation of Green Party members I know elsewhere in the country.
I thought your new party's strategy was also to focus on a number of key seats that might actually be winnable?
 
I thought your new party's strategy was also to focus on a number of key seats that might actually be winnable?
Not just two over the entire country though. Also not on the basis that you choose only the ones the party leadership want to stand in. It should start from where party members on the ground think they have the numbers to do something and build from that.
 
come on. It was Sian Berry's seat. Y'know, one of the five most famous Green's in the country. Anything other than a massive Green win would be shocki

Why? She was only 70 votes in front last time the seats were contested and she's gone. A resurgent and genuinely popular Labour Party should have had a decent chance at taking it.

A lot of the big London Labour majorities are based on most decent Londoners hating Tories and well liked long-standing local MPs - Abbot, Corbyn, Lammy, Butler etc. I'm not so sure Starmer fits that model (and he's about to fuck with it in Islington North). I don't think people like him much, he's just not a Tory and a decent alternative could cause an upset.

Would take a lot of groundwork and maybe a couple of goes but I don't think he's invulnerable. Anyway doesn't sound likely to happen from what Eric said.
 
Why? She was only 70 votes in front last time the seats were contested and she's gone. A resurgent and genuinely popular Labour Party should have had a decent chance at taking it.

A lot of the big London Labour majorities are based on most decent Londoners hating Tories and well liked long-standing local MPs - Abbot, Corbyn, Lammy, Butler etc. I'm not so sure Starmer fits that model (and he's about to fuck with it in Islington North). I don't think people like him much, he's just not a Tory and a decent alternative could cause an upset.

Two out of those four are likely to be running as independents next time round. Wouldn't be surprised if Starmer found a reason to kick Butler out of Labour as well.
 

Writing in the Sunday Telegraph, the Labour leader said Thatcher had “set loose our natural entrepreneurialism” during her time as prime minister.

“Across Britain, there are people who feel disillusioned, frustrated, angry, worried. Many of them have always voted Conservative but feel that their party has left them,” he said. “I understand that. I saw that with my own party and acted to fix it. But I also understand that many will still be uncertain about Labour. I ask them to take a look at us again.”
Fucking tosser, every time you think he's scraped the bottom of the barrel ...
 
Paywall breaker:

It is too easy to look at Britain today and throw your hands up in despair. Families across the country are bombarded with daily reminders of our current malaise: crumbling public services that no longer serve the public, families weighed down by the anxiety of spiralling mortgage bills and food prices, neighbourhoods plagued by crime and anti-social behaviour. Any one of these individually would be cause for outrage. Taken together they merge into something more insidious: the idea that our country no longer works for those it is supposed to.

That sense of a once great country now set on a path of decline has been sharpened by our political culture. The vast majority of the public don’t think about Westminster much. Why would they? At a time when people are looking for answers to the deep challenges of our age, they see a politics too large in its hectoring and interfering, too small in its ambition and ability. In these difficult conditions, the current Government resembles nothing so much as the sinking Mary Rose: overburdened, incompetently handled, plunging into the depths.

Every moment of meaningful change in modern British politics begins with the realisation that politics must act in service of the British people, rather than dictating to them. Margaret Thatcher sought to drag Britain out of its stupor by setting loose our natural entrepreneurialism. Tony Blair reimagined a stale, outdated Labour Party into one that could seize the optimism of the late 90s. A century ago, Clement Attlee wrote that Labour must be a party of duty and patriotism, not abstract theory. To build a “New Jerusalem” meant first casting off the mind-forged manacles. That lesson is as true today as it was then.

It is in this sense of public service that Labour has changed dramatically in the last three years. The course of shock therapy we gave our party had one purpose: to ensure that we were once again rooted in the priorities, the concerns and the dreams of ordinary British people. To put country before party.

None of that was easy but it was necessary. Often, it meant taking the path of most resistance. It meant not just listening to those who felt unable to vote for us but understanding them and acting. The public do not have outlandish or unreasonable expectations. They expect taxpayer money to be spent wisely, our security and our borders to be prioritised and a politics that serves them rather than itself. On each of these, we are now ready to deliver.

While we were moving back towards voters, the Tory Party has been steadily drifting away. Years of sowing empty promises, cynical falsehoods and false dawns is now reaping inevitable consequence. The Tories have talked the talk on fiscal prudence while wasting untold billions, weighing the country down with debt and raising the tax burden to a record high. They have squandered economic opportunities and failed to realise the possibilities of Brexit.

They will bequeath public finances more akin to a minefield than a solid foundation. Labour’s iron-clad fiscal rules will set this straight – but it will not be quick or easy. There will be many on my own side who will feel frustrated by the difficult choices we will have to make. This is non-negotiable: every penny must be accounted for. The public finances must be fixed so we can get Britain growing and make people feel better off.

Changing Labour has also meant ridding us of the nonsensical idea that some subjects are simply off limits for us. I profoundly disagree with the idea Labour should not be talking about immigration or small boats crossings. These are matters of serious public concern and deserve to be treated as such. This is a government that was elected on a promise that immigration would “come down”and the British people would “always [be] in control”. For immigration to then triple is more than just yet another failure – it is a betrayal of their promises.

When people see the Prime Minister allowing companies to pay workers from abroad 20 per cent less than those already here, they are right to conclude that the Tories are not just unserious about reducing immigration but actively driving it up. Labour would scrap this policy immediately. The Prime Minister should follow our lead.

Likewise, when people see government ministers wasting their time on gimmicks like Rwanda, they are right to conclude they are more interested in talking about small boat crossings than stopping them. Labour would use the full force of Britain’s intelligence and policing to smash the criminal gangs growing fat on the misery of human trafficking, destroying their evil business model. The Government should do the same.

Across Britain there are people who feel disillusioned, frustrated, angry, worried. Many of them have always voted Conservative but feel that their party has left them. I understand that. I saw that with my own party and acted to fix it. But I also understand that many will still be uncertain about Labour. I ask them to take a look at us again. If you believe that Britain needs stability, order, security then Labour is the party for you. If you believe there are precious things in our way of life, our communities and our environment that it is our responsibility to protect and preserve for future generations, Labour agrees with you. If you believe that this country needs change to get back to greatness, this Labour Party stands ready to deliver for you.

Britain’s priorities are once again Labour’s priorities. Delivering them is going to require all our efforts. That’s why we extend the hand of friendship to you, no matter where you are or who you have voted for in the past. National renewal demands it. It is only together that we will build the better future we all want.

Sir Keir Starmer is leader of the Labour Party

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Richard Murphy has this bit of analysis of Labour under Starmer based on his Torygraph article:


The closing sentence:

'A Labour government led by Keir Starmer will be a disaster for this country.'
 
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Considering how the public view of where the centre is has been shifted to the right by decades of capitalist programming the below poll says much

Labour Party alignment
What do you think it shows?
Personally, I'm astounded that they can find respondents that claim to have any idea about the ideological bent of the LP...how on earth would they know?
 
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