Keir Starmer's time is up

[Thaw]

What is Great British Energy?

Labour’s Great British Energy: ‘investment vehicle, not an energy company’

The UK Labour Party has given more details on its vision for Great British Energy, a publicly owned clean energy company.

www.current-news.co.uk

"Starmer confirms GB Energy isn’t an energy company but an investment arm for private sector &
will not:
1) produce energy
2) sell energy
3) own any energy infrastructure"

"The company’s three initial priorities will be co-investing in new technologies, scaling and accelerating mature ones and scaling up municipal and community energy. Labour has pledged that, if elected, it will more than double the UK’s onshore wind capacity to 35GW. It will also fast track at least 5GW of offshore wind capacity, quadrupling offshore wind with the ambition of 55GW by 2030.

Labour would also triple solar power to 50GW. However, its climate policy is not only focused on renewable energy generation: It will get new nuclear projects at Hinkley and Sizewell over the line, extend the lifetime of existing plants, and back new nuclear, including Small Modular Reactors.

Finally, it would double the government’s target on green hydrogen, with 10 GW of production for use particularly in flexible power generation, storage, and industries like green steel."

I am a bit sceptical about the timelines. There is supposed to be a wind farm being built near my sisters house. The planning application was first made in 2015 and they still haven't started building it.

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[weltweit]

Not sure I can do it.

Not sure I can vote for Starmer.

He is such an entitled cunt..

 

[Orang Utan]

Not sure I can do it.

Not sure I can vote for Starmer.

He is such an entitled cunt..

You’ll only be voting for him if you live in Holborn and St Pancras

 

[weltweit]

You’ll only be voting for him if you live in Holborn and St Pancras

I don't agree.

A vote for labour here where I live is a vote for Starmer for pm.

I vote locally for the party I want in government, and I bet many people vote that way.

 

[brogdale]

I don't agree.

A vote for labour here where I live is a vote for Starmer for pm.

I vote locally for the party I want in government, and I bet many people vote that way.

so, who do you want in government, then?

 

[weltweit]

so, who do you want in government, then?

Not Sunak and not Starmer .. not sure where that leaves me option wise

 

[brogdale]

Not Sunak and not Starmer .. not sure where that leaves me option wise

disappointment, I'm afraid

 

[Wilf]

Agony though it is to listen to, that's quite telling. Any class prejudice that's going on there is one Milord Keith has internalised.

 

[Wilf]

Not Sunak and not Starmer .. not sure where that leaves me option wise

Up a certain creek, without a directional aid I'm afraid.

 

[Wilf]

Just think, all those fuckers in the party and union hierarchies who could have stood up against this fucker. The neoliberali turn, the anti worker agenda, the environmental pro.ises lost, the destruction of the left.. a Labour government that will be, literally , as bad as the Tories. Shame on you.

 

[weltweit]

Yesterday, Sunak and Starmer both, no jackets, white shirts, ties, and shirt sleeves rolled partly up .. do they think we will believe they have been doing physical work or something?

 

[tommers]

Labour’s Great British Energy: ‘investment vehicle, not an energy company’

The UK Labour Party has given more details on its vision for Great British Energy, a publicly owned clean energy company.

www.current-news.co.uk

"Starmer confirms GB Energy isn’t an energy company but an investment arm for private sector &
will not:
1) produce energy
2) sell energy
3) own any energy infrastructure"

"The company’s three initial priorities will be co-investing in new technologies, scaling and accelerating mature ones and scaling up municipal and community energy. Labour has pledged that, if elected, it will more than double the UK’s onshore wind capacity to 35GW. It will also fast track at least 5GW of offshore wind capacity, quadrupling offshore wind with the ambition of 55GW by 2030.

Labour would also triple solar power to 50GW. However, its climate policy is not only focused on renewable energy generation: It will get new nuclear projects at Hinkley and Sizewell over the line, extend the lifetime of existing plants, and back new nuclear, including Small Modular Reactors.

Finally, it would double the government’s target on green hydrogen, with 10 GW of production for use particularly in flexible power generation, storage, and industries like green steel."

I am a bit sceptical about the timelines. There is supposed to be a wind farm being built near my sisters house. The planning application was first made in 2015 and they still haven't started building it.

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I've been reading a bit cos I'm interested in what this is, it might be the thing that could convince me to vote for them. It seems to be investing in energy infra, in conjunction with private companies,so I have my suspicions that we're underwriting any failures and "incentivising" private companies to build the infra in the form of grants or PFI stuff. I mean, anything that increases sustainable energy generation is fine by me but this isn't what I initially thought it was.

And yeah, I can absolutely see those targets falling by the wayside.

 

[tommers]

Yesterday, Sunak and Starmer both, no jackets, white shirts, ties, and shirt sleeves rolled partly up .. do they think we will believe they have been doing physical work or something?

Worked for Cameron.

 

[Sue]

Worked for Cameron.

And Blair.

 

[tommers]

And Blair.

Did he do it as well? Figures.

Has Starmer done that fucking weird power stance yet?

 

[two sheds]

Yesterday, Sunak and Starmer both, no jackets, white shirts, ties, and shirt sleeves rolled partly up .. do they think we will believe they have been doing physical work or something?

You probably don't know but Starmer's dad was a toolmaker.

 

[brogdale]

I've been reading a bit cos I'm interested in what this is, it might be the thing that could convince me to vote for them. It seems to be investing in energy infra, in conjunction with private companies,so I have my suspicions that we're underwriting any failures and "incentivising" private companies to build the infra in the form of grants or PFI stuff. I mean, anything that increases sustainable energy generation is fine by me but this isn't what I initially thought it was.

And yeah, I can absolutely see those targets falling by the wayside.

It will, of course, amount to a scheme in which taxes on labour are redistributed to the unearned income of asset management companies.

 

[weltweit]

You probably don't know but Starmer's dad was a toolmaker.

Toolmakers are very skilled and I would expect quite well paid, depending on how good they are.

 

[brogdale]

You probably don't know but Starmer's dad was a toolmaker.

On that theme, were you aware that Khan's dad owned a bus company?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It will, of course, amount to a scheme in which taxes on labour are redistributed to the unearned income of asset management companies.

Yep. The inherent problem (not a problem for some) with all PFI-type schemes. Government will borrow a bit and private sector will borrow a bit. If it's confident in the value of the scheme, why doesn't the govt borrow all of it? Govt can borrow more cheaply than anyone.

 

[Sue]

Did he do it as well? Figures.

Blair was the master of the 'shucks, I'm just an ordinary guy with no jacket and rolled up sleeves' thing.

Has Starmer done that fucking weird power stance yet?

Never fear. He will.

 

[brogdale]

Blair was the master of the 'shucks, I'm just an ordinary guy with no jacket and rolled up sleeves' thing.

Never fear. He will.

straight sort of guys

 

[Sue]

straight sort of guys

Ah yes, that's right. I'd managed to forget that for some reason.

 

[lazythursday]

I've been reading a bit cos I'm interested in what this is, it might be the thing that could convince me to vote for them. It seems to be investing in energy infra, in conjunction with private companies,so I have my suspicions that we're underwriting any failures and "incentivising" private companies to build the infra in the form of grants or PFI stuff. I mean, anything that increases sustainable energy generation is fine by me but this isn't what I initially thought it was.

And yeah, I can absolutely see those targets falling by the wayside.

I'm slightly puzzled by it really. We do need loads more investment in renewables but the energy sector is far ahead of others when it comes to reducing carbon. The big blockage at the moment seems to be around electricity distribution networks more than anything else.

Whet really needs investment, in terms of climate, is transport and buildings. But putting money into home retrofit and buses is less sexy than big energy infrastructure stuff.

 

[Sue]

God, he really is shit at this whole politics thing, eh.

Starmer admits he flew by private jet to clean energy jobs rally in Scotland

Labour leader says it was ‘most efficient form of transport’ from Wales and party has offset the carbon

www.theguardian.com

 

[tommers]

I'm slightly puzzled by it really. We do need loads more investment in renewables but the energy sector is far ahead of others when it comes to reducing carbon. The big blockage at the moment seems to be around electricity distribution networks more than anything else.

Whet really needs investment, in terms of climate, is transport and buildings. But putting money into home retrofit and buses is less sexy than big energy infrastructure stuff.

Well I saw something about warmer homes. But I don't know if that's new or an already existing programme.

There's a thing on the website where you can see what the benefits would be for your area.

 

[MickiQ]

You probably don't know but Starmer's dad was a toolmaker.

No? has he ever said that? I might have heard rumours his mum was a nurse but I'm not sure about that

 

[Pickman's model]

You probably don't know but Starmer's dad was a toolmaker.

Yeh like leatherman, not like some artisan screwdriver mixer.

 

[Thaw]

I've been reading a bit cos I'm interested in what this is, it might be the thing that could convince me to vote for them. It seems to be investing in energy infra, in conjunction with private companies,so I have my suspicions that we're underwriting any failures and "incentivising" private companies to build the infra in the form of grants or PFI stuff. I mean, anything that increases sustainable energy generation is fine by me but this isn't what I initially thought it was.

And yeah, I can absolutely see those targets falling by the wayside.

Powering Up Britain: Net Zero Growth Plan

www.gov.uk

Worth noting that the current UK plan is for 50GW of offshore wind by 2030 anyway.

And its only going to have £8b to invest which isn't even that much. A big chunk of it will be for solar panels 'in the community' which is a nice idea but not necessarily something that is going to give you much of a RoI.
I'm disappointed theres no mention of biogas. I like the idea of diverting night soil into digestors that pump gas back into the grid instead of into the rivers.

Labour has launched its Great British Energy policy - do we need it?

As Labour launches Great British Energy Sky's Ian King asks why is it being left to regulator Ofgem, rather than politicians, to spell out the household costs of the energy transition?

news.sky.com

 

[maomao]

You probably don't know but Starmer's dad was a toolmaker.

Every time he says that I think 'yeah, he made you and you're a fucking tool'.