Just Stop Oil

[AverageJoe]

Yesterday's Silverstone Grand Prix

 

[Sasaferrato]

So to summarise, you don't like a direct action group because they use hyperbole and are only aiming to stop fossil fuel extraction in the area where they live and can potentially affect government decisions, rather than in Qatar and Nigeria, where they don't live and have no say at all in the matter. I can see your masterful strategies will serve you well in carrying out erm, whatever more effective plan you might have I guess. When you implement it.

I think a lot of them are naive self aggrandising arseholes.

Too fucking thick to realise that change cannot be instant.

Yes, we need to reduce carbon emissions, but we also need to heat our homes, wash our clothes and cook food.

Until 100% reliable replacements are with us, gas and oil are needed. Wind can be a huge generator, but you cannot rely on it, and the cold still times are when heating is needed most.

I think they need to fuck off and fucking grow up.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I wonder if those in retirement are less panicked than those who are still in education.

 

[Rob Ray]

No doubt some of the younger ones are naive, perhaps even a few of the older ones who haven't done any campaigning before. Even so, I think they can be forgiven for being more enthusiastic than practical - it's better than being a miserable canting defeatist, inasmuch as the former can learn and grow while the latter is fundamentally of no use to anyone.

But if you think campaigning for the impossible is about actually getting the impossible you're a bigger fool than them. Pressure from campaigning is about forcing governments to go beyond what they pitch as the politically possible - and they always can.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

No doubt some of the younger ones are naive, perhaps even a few of the older ones who haven't done any campaigning before. Even so, I think they can be forgiven for being more enthusiastic than practical - it's better than being a miserable canting defeatist, inasmuch as the former can learn and grow while the latter is fundamentally of no use to anyone.

But if you think campaigning for the impossible is about actually getting the impossible you're a bigger fool than them. Pressure from campaigning is about forcing governments to go beyond what they pitch as the politically possible - and they always can.

My post was a dig at Sas. Btw.

 

[killer b]

I wonder if those in retirement are less panicked than those who are still in education.

My kid told me off for joking about how we'll all be eating irradiated rats for dinner in a decade the other day

 

[Magnus McGinty]

My kid told me off for joking about how we'll all be eating irradiated rats for dinner in a decade the other day

He best learn some decent sauce recipes!

 

[SpookyFrank]

Unable to maintain their campaign of disrupting infrastructure, they’ve now resorted to repeatedly targeting paintings:

Just Stop Oil protesters glue themselves to Constable’s The Hay Wain in London’s National Gallery

Climate change protesters have attached their own image of "an apocalyptic vision of the future" to the frame of John Constable's masterpiece painting The Hay Wain.

www.independent.ie

I'm now thinking it's more likely than not that these clowns are working for the government to discredit both environmentalism and direct action in general.

 

[8ball]

Unable to maintain their campaign of disrupting infrastructure, they’ve now resorted to repeatedly targeting paintings:

Just Stop Oil protesters glue themselves to Constable’s The Hay Wain in London’s National Gallery

Climate change protesters have attached their own image of "an apocalyptic vision of the future" to the frame of John Constable's masterpiece painting The Hay Wain.

www.independent.ie

Oil paintings tbf.

 

[bcuster]

 

[cybershot]

They've been back digging tunnels under roads to get to the oil depot near here. Complete madness tactics. Roads closed to ensure safe and then fill the tunnels back in with concrete!

 

[extra dry]

Rashida Tlaib's questioning of bank executives, and how that directly leads to the climate inferno being protested by scientists today sept 2022, roughly 10 minutes long.

 

[Karl Masks]

Wither XR?

All i see is JSO/Insulate Britain protesters being locked up and, thanks to cuts, languish in a black hole on remand. One of the things that must be done is to join up with these struggles work to find methods that dont' leave these people divided and screwed, because let's be honest these guys are fucked

 

[ska invita]

Wither XR?

All i see is JSO/Insulate Britain protesters being locked up and, thanks to cuts, languish in a black hole on remand. One of the things that must be done is to join up with these struggles work to find methods that dont' leave these people divided and screwed, because let's be honest these guys are fucked

next actions from XR...building for spring 23 supposedly

 

[Pickman's model]

Wither XR?

All i see is JSO/Insulate Britain protesters being locked up and, thanks to cuts, languish in a black hole on remand. One of the things that must be done is to join up with these struggles work to find methods that dont' leave these people divided and screwed, because let's be honest these guys are fucked

This is a natural consequence of Roger hallam's plans which was eminently predictable

 

[gosub]

Rashida Tlaib's questioning of bank executives, and how that directly leads to the climate inferno being protested by scientists today sept 2022, roughly 10 minutes long.

Current estimated cost of meeting Net zero 2050 US (who have the global reserve currency....as world currently constucted (oil based US denominated) $US12,000 per person per annum....


Transition can/does have to happen (we are past peak oil after all) but off the spin of how all this went down.....Rashida Tlaib is out of her depth

 

[gosub]

The natural gas that isn't coming through Nordsream or Nordstream2.....thats a byproduct (as far as Russia is concerned) of Russian oil production....which can/will only stop if oil price around $60 (after all they are at Special military operations) and have limited amount of military equipment that doesn't need fuelling....so they burn the methane....

20 years ago I remember, concern was permafrost would thaw releasing a fuck tonneof methane.....lot of fires in Siberia last couple of years...

even if price of oil comes down to take Russia out of that equation. Educated guess, there will still be fires in Siberia

 

[8ball]

Wither XR?

All i see is JSO/Insulate Britain protesters being locked up and, thanks to cuts, languish in a black hole on remand. One of the things that must be done is to join up with these struggles work to find methods that dont' leave these people divided and screwed, because let's be honest these guys are fucked

There’s a very porous membrane between JSO and XR. It might serve them both well for it to appear less porous than it really is, too.

 

[Karl Masks]

There’s a very porous membrane between JSO and XR. It might serve them both well for it to appear less porous than it really is, too.

I think Roger hallam is involved in both, or it might be insulate Britain, iirc

 

[8ball]

I think Roger hallam is involved in both, or it might be insulate Britain, iirc

He’s more involved with JSO right now (or was the last time I looked.
JSO and IB are the same people.

 

[platinumsage]

He’s more involved with JSO right now (or was the last time I looked.

That explains their failure then.

 

[Karl Masks]

That explains their failure then.

Well they are currently languishing in prison, so that explains his success then

 

[8ball]

That explains their failure then.

This post makes me wonder if things are going better for them than I thought.

 

[Karl Masks]

Current estimated cost of meeting Net zero 2050 US (who have the global reserve currency....as world currently constucted (oil based US denominated) $US12,000 per person per annum....


Transition can/does have to happen (we are past peak oil after all) but off the spin of how all this went down.....Rashida Tlaib is out of her depth

What should she say or advocate?

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

2050 is an appropriate net zero deadline. It won't lead to mass genocide, Just Stop Oil's "research" is disingenuous as it bases it's dire predictions not on net zero by 2050 but on no measures being taken whatsoever.

I despair for the young people being sucked into this egotist death cult.

I mean I guess the one good thing I could say about this post is that at least you were calling it an "egotist death cult" some months before London literally went on fire. Uses Walter White voice So there's that.

 

[platinumsage]

I mean I guess the one good thing I could say about this post is that at least you were calling it an "egotist death cult" some months before London literally went on fire. Uses Walter White voice So there's that.

Well, I’m “complicit in mass genocide”, as I assume are you, unless you glued yourself to something recently, so not sure either of us can morally participate in this discussion.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Well, I’m “complicit in mass genocide”, as I assume are you, unless you glued yourself to something recently, so not sure either of us can morally participate in this discussion.

I'll happily participate in it immorally. I'm a socialist, not a faacking vicar.

 

[Serge Forward]

Dunno who did this but it's a Chevron ad, nicely detourned (as the situationists would have said).

 

[platinumsage]

I assume End UK Private Jets is a front for the same crowd:

 

[Indeliblelink]

They've thrown soup over van Gogh's Sunflowers painting.