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Well believe it or not white nationalist Nick Fuentes is impressed with Creepy Joe, has done a Richard Spencer, and actually says he's "better than Trump."

As I've said before, fascism and bourgeois democracy are just two different ways of managing capitalism at the expense of the working class and Fuentes quite likes how Biden is doing that.

Both of them are on the right.


 
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seriously fuck off for linking to that cunts video even indirectly

ya gobshite

more so Entrepreneurs
 
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The usual hysterical trolling and insults from Ax that atleast partially struggles to make sense. And he clearly didn't even bother to watch the video.

I've got Ax on ignore for a very good reason.
 
The usual hysterical trolling and insults from Ax that atleast partially struggles to make sense. And he clearly didn't even bother to watch the video.

I've got Ax on ignore for a very good reason.

last guy who linked to nick claimed the same
 
The usual hysterical trolling and insults from Ax that atleast partially struggles to make sense. And he clearly didn't even bother to watch the video.

I've got Ax on ignore for a very good reason.

Serious question.

Why would you put up a Nick Fuentes video?

Also

Both you and Joe Stalin are on the left.

See how ridiculous that sounds?
 
Yeah, its a video by a guy whose to the left of Joe Biden and it doesn't include any clips of Nick Fuentes, but even if it did it wouldn't matter.
 
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Well believe it or not white nationalist Nick Fuentes is impressed with Creepy Joe, has done a Richard Spencer, and actually says he's "better than Trump."

As I've said before, fascism and bourgeois democracy are just two different ways of managing capitalism at the expense of the working class and Fuentes quite likes how Biden is doing that.

Both of them are on the right.




Fuentes approves of capping insulin prices. Does that mean we should oppose the idea just because he likes it too? I bet Fuentes drinks water too, so let's die of thirst to own the fash, right?
 
Well believe it or not white nationalist Nick Fuentes is impressed with Creepy Joe, has done a Richard Spencer, and actually says he's "better than Trump."

As I've said before, fascism and bourgeois democracy are just two different ways of managing capitalism at the expense of the working class and Fuentes quite likes how Biden is doing that.

Both of them are on the right.



Of course both of them are on the right, you say it as if it will come to a surprise to anyone on the boards.

Where I take issue is when you say that all politicians are the same so voting is pointless, and that it makes no real difference whether the right-wing democrats or the far-right republicans get into power. It will make a huge difference if Trump or his mates take power.

And it's not at all what the bloke in the video you linked to is saying.
 
the right-wing democrats or the far-right republicans
One can be said to be more extreme than the other but both are still extreme and also extremely shit for the working class. Both of them manage the same capitalist system at our expense. And I don't actually think the likes of the Democrats truly help oppressed groups and at the end of the day their neoliberalism and representative democracy aids the far right. What is needed is a genuine alternative to both.
 
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One can be said to be more extreme than the other but both are still extreme and also extremely shit for the working class. Both of them manage the same capitalist system at our expense. And I don't actually think the likes of the Democrats truly help oppressed groups and at the end of the day their neoliberalism and representative democracy aids the far right. Was is needed is a genuine alternative to both.

For the most part I don't think people here would disagree with this. Where you and I differ is that I'm pragmatic enough to be willing to annoy my Congress critters to get them to stick a crowbar in the government wallet to provide resources that poor and working-class people need to survive. The key to getting those resources is being persistent enough to annoy the shit out of them. (IMHO, annoying the shit out of them is a worthwhile goal in itself. If nothing else, its cheap entertainment.) Then, if you know how to work a federal program, you can match $1000 of donations with federal and state money to end up with several multiples of that $1000. And they do make a difference. I can give you numbers on how many extra deaths happen during Republican administrations, than in Democratic administrations. You may say that that doesn't make a difference, but it certainly makes a difference to those people. Even if you and I cease to vote ever again, I don't see these politicians going away any time soon.
 
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One can be said to be more extreme than the other but both are still extreme and also extremely shit for the working class. Both of them manage the same capitalist system at our expense. And I don't actually think the likes of the Democrats truly help oppressed groups and at the end of the day their neoliberalism and representative democracy aids the far right. Was is needed is a genuine alternative to both.
Go on then, what's the next sentence?
 
Go on then, what's the next sentence?

With a nod to JC2:

You say you want a revolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Alright Alright

You say you got a real solution
Well you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well you know
We're doing what we can
But when you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Alright Alright

You say you'll change the Constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You'd better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know know it's gonna be
Alright, alright
Alright, alright
Alright, alright!
 
For the most part I don't think people here would disagree with this. Where you and I differ is that I'm pragmatic enough to be willing to annoy my Congress critters to get them to stick a crowbar in the government wallet to provide resources that poor and working-class people need to survive. The key to getting those resources is being persistent enough to annoy the shit out of them. (IMHO, annoying the shit out of them is a worthwhile goal in itself. If nothing else, its cheap entertainment.) Then, if you know how to work a federal program, you can match $1000 of donations with federal and state money to end up with several multiples of that $1000. And they do make a difference. I can give you numbers on how many extra deaths happen during Republican administrations, than in Democratic administrations. You may say that that doesn't make a difference, but it certainly makes a difference to those people. Even if you and I cease to vote ever again, I don't see these politicians going away any time soon.
Well if people want to put on pressure on those in power to get things like reforms etc I'm all for it, and autonomous alternatives from below are the best way of doing that. But when people are too dependent on politicians it becomes a big problem.
 
Well if people want to put on pressure on those in power to get things like reforms etc I'm all for it, and autonomous alternatives from below are the best way of doing that. But when people are too dependent on politicians it becomes a big problem.

Again, you're not saying anything new here. None of us are too fond of any particular government, or governments in general.
 
Well if people want to put on pressure on those in power to get things like reforms etc I'm all for it, and autonomous alternatives from below are the best way of doing that. But when people are too dependent on politicians it becomes a big problem.
Autonomous Alternatives from Below is a great slogan but that's all it is. What alternatives would you propose and feel free to be as radical as you want. This is Urban after all where political and social philosophies come to die so you can't possibly do any harm.
Personally I think democratic elections are a pretty good idea. Certainly there is a great deal we can do (but sadly aren't) to make them fairer and more representative and I most definitely want to see a much broader range of policies and candidates than the current sorry bunch offer. But the fundamental idea that our political leadership has to go back to the general populace at regular intervals, explain their policies and seek a mandate strikes me as a good one. It's certainly better than all the alternatives we've tried so far.
 
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