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Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

and if that comes at the price of the next Tory leader calling a snap election and increasing their majority while the LP engages in its destructive, 1980's style navel gazing, will that 'victory' be a price worth paying?

Is accepting a no-different-from-the-Tories Labour Party as the political force to offset the Tories not equally as destructive over the longer term?
Do you think that poor people generally,and disabled people in particular, could take another 4-5 years of neoliberal anti-welfare policies? You need to remember who first started dropping cluster-bombs on the poor - it wasn't the Tories, it was "new" Labour. People with the same ideology as the Progress piss-takers whose attempted coup you appear to not be very concerned about.
 
The Euston Dipsomaniac himself!!! With allies like this, a Progress victory is assured!
"“We’ve got the numbers, we’ve got the big hitters" supposedly said Angela Eagles mate!
""It is believed that his political adviser, Guardian journalist Seumas Milne, is telling him to "tough it out".""

Fair play to Seumas on that score.
I thought he was his media adviser, not political adviser.
 
"“We’ve got the numbers, we’ve got the big hitters" supposedly said Angela Eagles mate!

""It is believed that his political adviser, Guardian journalist Seumas Milne, is telling him to "tough it out".""

Fair play to Seumas on that score.
I thought he was his media adviser, not political adviser.
"screw your courage to the sticking place"
 
You wanted this didn't you? This is your mess. Who did you have lined up? Or, did you have no say whatsoever, even in this?

It's not my mess in the slightest. Blame Jeremy and those around him who failed to plan a succession.

He's a dead man walking and when this is done, win or lose, his 'friends' will push his head down the bog.
 
It's not my mess in the slightest. Blame Jeremy and those around him who failed to plan a succession.

He's a dead man walking and when this is done, win or lose, his 'friends' will push his head down the bog.
He who wills the end wills the means.

You'r trying to walk away going not me guv'
 
my reading of the rules is that sitting MPs can be deselected as long as the trigger ballot is completed before parliament is dissolved. So if they were to set up a timetable that ended up with trigger ballots happening in anticipation of an early election before parliament was dissolved then they could be deselected.

The NEC would need to agree the timetable for this deselection / selection process to take place though.

And if there wasn't an early election then there'd be a fuckload of sitting MPs left for the next 4 years having already been deselected.

Messy situation all round really, a proper stand off between the leadership + membership vs the majority of the CLP, with no obvious way out of it that keeps the party together.
 
Is accepting a no-different-from-the-Tories Labour Party as the political force to offset the Tories not equally as destructive over the longer term?
Do you think that poor people generally,and disabled people in particular, could take another 4-5 years of neoliberal anti-welfare policies?

Depends if you believe that the only possible choices for the Labour party are Corbyn and some Blairite looking to recreate 2006.

I don't, and don't think Corbyn can deliver an election victory - or even a coalition - in 2020 or whenever the next election falls because of his personality/persona as well as his policy platform. I also don't believe that it is necessary for his social/economic policies - which I broadly like - to be mated to his defence/foreign/security policies, which to no one's surprise whatsoever, I consider so foolish, so harmful, that I couldn't consider voting Labour under his leadership despite his domestic/economic policies being something I've waited my whole adult life for.
 
You really posted this,

I'm just chatting. I disagree with you. An amazing project, the grass roots revitalisation of the Labour Party. It could be nailing the Tories right now, but has a leader who is too dense to see his way round the PLP. Too inept to convince on the referendum.

I would prefer the Labour Party evolves not splinters. Not sexy I know.
 
I'm just chatting. I disagree with you. An amazing project, the grass roots revitalisation of the Labour Party. It could be nailing the Tories right now, but has a leader who is too dense to see his way round the PLP. Too inept to convince on the referendum.

I would prefer the Labour Party evolves not splinters. Not sexy I know.
the rest of the plp which seems atm to have been outmanoeuvred by him is not dense?
 
So what would be most likely/best/most entertaining way to break the stalemate?

Blackadder style one of the traitors ascends from the trenches to certain doom?
Corbyn cannae take any more. Nervous exhaustion takes over and he resigns?
Newsnight contacted 50 CLPs and 45 still back Corbyn. The CLPs conduct votes of no confidence against their traitor MPs. They finally feel shame?
A Corbyn supporter launches a leadership bid. No traitors put themselves up and the supporter pulls out on the morning of the election in favour of Corbyn? *nomination issues with this*
A Corbyn supporter launches a leadership bid and the traitors put up their own candidate thinking the left vote will be split and they will win. *and this*
Dragons?
Wildfire?
 
Wednesdays are a big day in parliament or haven't you noticed?

Not making a literal point tho. Half tongue in cheek and half that is a problem though.

We know he can make a wholesome speech to the young. I don't disagree with any of what he is saying. It's not enough though, this greatest hits set.
 
I'm just chatting. I disagree with you. An amazing project, the grass roots revitalisation of the Labour Party. It could be nailing the Tories right now, but has a leader who is too dense to see his way round the PLP. Too inept to convince on the referendum.

I would prefer the Labour Party evolves not splinters. Not sexy I know.

I don't get this. They can't get on with nailing the Tories because the PLP started this clusterfuck. They were too dense to see their way round JC to nail the Tories when it is the Tories who should be very publicly on the ropes.
 
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