Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[DaveCinzano]

Ah. So it's fair to say that it really is their best/only bet to delay for as long as possible via the legal investigation blah blah and just try to wear him down in the meantime? There's nothing he can do to force their hand now except to wait it out?

Let's face it, Watson's need for pies is going to let him down in any stand-off

 

[DaveCinzano]

If they do parachute the other Milliband into Jo Cox's constituency...

That's all a bit Attack Of The Clones

 

[J Ed]

Let's face it, Watson's need for pies is going to let him down in any stand-off

Nothing wrong with liking pies.

BTW, am I right in saying that if there is a leadership election there won't also be deputy leadership election? Would a victorious Corbyn be stuck with Watson still?

 

[happie chappie]

If they do parachute the other Milliband into Jo Cox's constituency, how do you think that'd go down with the membership I wonder?

Feels like pretty poor taste under the circumstances.

It's unclear whether the Party's constitution will allow Milliband to be parachuted without the leader's consent.

In any case, he would lose the leadership election by a country mile so why would he bother?

 

[butchersapron]

It's unclear whether the Party's constitution will allow Milliband can be parachuted without the leader's consent. In any case, he would lose the leadership election so why would he bother?

The NEC can bung anyone they want in anywhere. Clear for years.

 

[sheothebudworths]

Yep.

Pisser. Tbf, he's doing quite well at *waiting it out*

 

[butchersapron]

Pisser. Tbf, he's doing quite well at *waiting it out*

Hang on, it's a good thing - are we talking about the same thing? I may have misread what you asked.

 

[happie chappie]

The NEC can bung anyone they want in anywhere. Clear for years.

They can't - it has to be signed off by the Party Treasurer/Nominations Officer/Leader

 

[sheothebudworths]

Surely Eagle's just saying she'll throw her hat in the ring once/if someone else has triggered a contest? Wasn't Margaret Hodge supposed to be cracking on with that?

She doesn't seem to be doing much more atm than bawling on the telly and begging him to turn it in, lol.

 

[J Ed]

From the graunid

One went down with some dignity. The other just went down.

Not even the 40 members of the parliamentary Labour party who apparently do still have confidence in Jeremy Corbyn could be bothered to raise a cheer when he stood at the dispatch box for prime minister’s questions.

He rose in almost total silence, his face twisted in anger: the dividing line between stubborn ambition and personal principle has become increasingly opaque.

Sounds almost like a screed from Der Sturmer

 

[butchersapron]

They can't - it has to be signed off by the Party Treasurer/Nominations Officer/Leader

Any of these? All of these? In effect the NIEC decided on all previous parachutisations.

 

[happie chappie]

Any of these? All of these? In effect the NIEC decided on all previous parachutisations.

Refer to my post #2085 upthread when I spoke to the Electoral Commission. The view that the NEC has the final say on candidate selection is a misconception. It has to be signed off.

 

[sheothebudworths]

Hang on, it's a good thing - are we talking about the same thing? I may have misread what you asked.

Prob not - I mean, I can see how fucked that makes them, obv - was just having a brief moment of disappointment that they still have that one, pathetic shot to play, really.
It doesn't look to me like Corbyn will do anything but firmly keep at it - but I was just keeping in mind what for eg J Ed and Vintage Paw said about the impact it must naturally be having on him, to some degree at least. That time IS still a weapon in their arsenal in that respect, even if it's the only one they've got left.

 

[happie chappie]

Sorry pressed wrong button!

 

[butchersapron]

Refer to my post #2085 upthread when I spoke to the Electoral Commission. The view that the NEC has the final say on candidate selection is a misconception. It has to be signed off.

How does that challenge what i posted?

 

[butchersapron]

Prob not - I mean, I can see how fucked that makes them, obv - was just having a brief moment of disappointment that they still have that one, pathetic shot to play, really.
It doesn't look to me like Corbyn will do anything but firmly keep at it - but I was just keeping in mind what for eg J Ed and Vintage Paw said about the impact it must naturally be having on him, to some degree at least. That time IS still a weapon in their arsenal in that respect, even if it's the only one they've got left.

Ok. I meant the opposite, time is killing them.

 

[happie chappie]

How does that challenge what i posted?

You said the NEC can bung anyone in they want. I was pointing out they can't.

 

[Rob Ray]

From the graunid

Sounds almost like a screed from Der Sturmer

Bizarre how they've latched on to this idea about Corbyn staying stemming from personal ambition after months of them questioning whether he even wanted the job. All has to be phrased in terms careerists can understand.

 

[sheothebudworths]

Ok. I meant the opposite, time is killing them.

Oh! Good news all round then!

 

[Sirena]

No, they want to split, and keep the Short money - the state funding to the party - which means they have to be "The Labour Party".
If they lose the Short money, they'd have to get Sainsbury to cough up, and that'd point up to potential voters that the Labour right are even bigger neoliberal stooges than they thought.

They could call themselves the TB Dons.

 

[butchersapron]

You said the NEC can bung anyone in they want. I was pointing out they can't.

They have, because the signing off has trad been a formality following a leader decision. The NEC - if minded could put in someone - then invite leadership opposition. Then it's back to the courts.

 

[happie chappie]

They have, because the signing off has trad been a formality following a leader decision. The NEC - if minded could put in someone - then invite leadership opposition. Then it's back to the courts.

What has traditionally happened is irrelevant. The position is clear - the NEC does not have the ultimate power to decide who a labour candidate is. If you don't think this is the case then take it up with Electoral Commission.

 

[Lord Camomile]

For what it's worth, this is an email to a mate from his MP Clive Efford.

 

[butchersapron]

What has traditionally happened is irrelevant. The position is clear - the NEC does not have the ultimate power to decide who a labour candidate is. If you don't think this is the case then take it up with Electoral Commission.

What has traditionally happened is very important and would play a key part in any legal judgement.

 

[happie chappie]

What has traditionally happened is very important and would play a key part in any legal judgement.

There isn't a legal case because the position is clear. It's what the Electoral Commission say. Feel free to ring them tomorrow and tell them they're wrong.

 

[butchersapron]

There isn't a legal case because the position is clear. It's what the Electoral Commission say. Feel free to ring them tomorrow and tell them they're wrong.

OK

 

[binka]

Eagle is back on!

 

[butchersapron]

Eagle is back on!

It refuses the example of the crow.

 

[Mr Moose]

Eagle is back on!

Is there no limit to the number of deluded people in the Labour Party who believe they can lead it?

 

[ViolentPanda]

3 quiders, don't they count?

As what? One-off leadership election voters,sure.

As Labour stalwarts and socialists, though? That's something that current experience is only mildly reflecting.