Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[littlebabyjesus]

and if that comes at the price of the next Tory leader calling a snap election and increasing their majority while the LP engages in its destructive, 1980's style navel gazing, will that 'victory' be a price worth paying?

What do you think will happen if this coup is successful?

 

[KeeperofDragons]

This has been engineered - Hillary Benn manipulated his sacking to get Jeremy Corbyn out & I think most of the party membership can see this & if it goes to an election Corbyn will get another mandate, not as high as the last time but a majority nevertheless.

 

[butchersapron]

Aha, seems I was right then.

He's biding his time.

He's very clever.

He's done now as well.

 

[KeeperofDragons]

It's an attempted coup & it won't succeed, if it goes to a vote he won't get the landslide he did but he'll still get the backing of the party membership

 

[DaveCinzano]

i cried. that's beautiful.

You think that's beautiful, just wait till you yourself can finger-paint with the red-flecked grey bits from inside Tristram Hunt.

 

[Vintage Paw]

I can't imagine for a second how they think standing David Miliband would in any way be a Good Thing.

Are they really that utterly oblivious to their membership and the unions? Not only is he a hark back to the good old Blairite days of yore, which frankly should be disavowed and disowned once and for all, but parachuting someone in for the leadership race would surely turn even Corbyn's haters against them. The membership do not like parachutes.

I just can't see how they'd work that one out in their head as in any way a good idea.

 

[Vintage Paw]

This has been engineered - Hillary Benn manipulated his sacking to get Jeremy Corbyn out & I think most of the party membership can see this & if it goes to an election Corbyn will get another mandate, not as high as the last time but a majority nevertheless.

He apparently called him to tell him he was going to publicly attack him. So he manipulated Corbyn into having to fire him. Why phone him at 1am to tell him that otherwise?

 

[killer b]

Miliband isn't ever coming back, it's just something idiots who think they have some kind of deep political insight like to moot at times like this.

 

[Pickman's model]

I can't imagine for a second how they think standing David Miliband would in any way be a Good Thing.

Are they really that utterly oblivious to their membership and the unions? Not only is he a hark back to the good old Blairite days of yore, which frankly should be disavowed and disowned once and for all, but parachuting someone in for the leadership race would surely turn even Corbyn's haters against them. The membership do not like parachutes.

I just can't see how they'd work that one out in their head as in any way a good idea.

Yeh but you don't have the mind of a Blairite politician

 

[discokermit]

Miliband isn't ever coming back, it's just something idiots who think they have some kind of deep political insight like to moot at times like this.

although "idiots who think they have some kind of deep political insight" does sound like a lot of the plp, to be honest.

 

[killer b]

TBH if I was Miliband with my nice job in New York saving the world, I'd look over here and be all like you guys carry on without me anyway.

 

[J Ed]

Imagine if after all this they can't find anyone to stand against Corbyn

 

[Pickman's model]

Imagine if after all this they can't find anyone to stand against Corbyn

Put up chuka

 

[J Ed]

Labour Leadership Election 2016

Corbyn - 100%

 

[butchersapron]

(Thanks to whatever mod moved thread - ta)

 

[discokermit]

nicola murray?

 

[discokermit]

spinners and losers. the thick of it should lend this title to the plotters.

 

[Artaxerxes]

I know but they are indicative that even the DM is out of touch with its readership.

Quite frankly Corbyn should have demanded a leadership election before the confidence vote.

I like him, I like his polices, he's a bit crap at actually leading. But there's one important factor in why he should stay:

None of the rest of these arseholes can either. As this coup shows.

 

[DaveCinzano]

nicola murray?

Get bent

 

[DaveCinzano]

Miliband isn't ever coming back

It's like he's the equivalent of their pet rabbit who "went to go live on a farm"

 

[happie chappie]

I’m not sure there is now a coherent strategy among the 172. They assumed Corbyn would resign and then there would be a leadership election with several candidates.

Now there is likely can only be one challenger to avoid splitting the anti Corbyn vote - and who in their right mind would want to be that person as it appears they would be beaten out of sight, fuck any leadership prospects they may otherwise have had, and expose them to the hatred of the majority of the labour movement.

 

[Rob Ray]

I’m not sure there is now a coherent strategy among the 172. They assumed Corbyn would resign and then there would be a leadership election with several candidates.

Now there is likely can only be one challenger to avoid splitting the anti Corbyn vote - and who in their right mind would want to be that person as it appears they would be beaten out of sight, fuck any leadership prospects they may otherwise have had, and expose them to the hatred of the majority of the labour movement.

Not only that, but even if they somehow won whoever takes over will be utterly humiliated by the Tories. They'll be left with a rump of careerist wonks and a decimated activist base, they may well be financially punished by the unions, old Labour voters will abandon them and the total mess will put off wobbly "middle grounders." Whichever fool picks up the poison chalice will be remembered forever as the face of catastrophic political disaster.

 

[J Ed]

I’m not sure there is now a coherent strategy among the 172. They assumed Corbyn would resign and then there would be a leadership election with several candidates.

Now there is likely can only be one challenger to avoid splitting the anti Corbyn vote - and who in their right mind would want to be that person as it appears they would be beaten out of sight, fuck any leadership prospects they may otherwise have had, and expose them to the hatred of the majority of the labour movement.

Suppose They Gave a War and Nobody Came

 

[ViolentPanda]

according to who? I just asked some young working class people and they'd never heard of her.

You hanging round the bus station again?

 

[butchersapron]

I’m not sure there is now a coherent strategy among the 172. They assumed Corbyn would resign and then there would be a leadership election with several candidates.

Now there is likely can only be one challenger to avoid splitting the anti Corbyn vote - and who in their right mind would want to be that person as it appears they would be beaten out of sight, fuck any leadership prospects they may otherwise have had, and expose them to the hatred of the majority of the labour movement.

I think the now now bit in your opening line is too generous.

 

[J Ed]

How come the PLP didn't foresee any of this? Most people commenting on here did and none of us (I assume) are professional politicians. It's not game over yet but it looks good for Corbyn so far.

 

[sheothebudworths]

Imagine if after all this they can't find anyone to stand against Corbyn

 

[ViolentPanda]

Anti-Corbyn Labour MPs investigate party name ownership



So they want to split and keep the name. The arrogance!

No, they want to split, and keep the Short money - the state funding to the party - which means they have to be "The Labour Party".
If they lose the Short money, they'd have to get Sainsbury to cough up, and that'd point up to potential voters that the Labour right are even bigger neoliberal stooges than they thought.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I just heard Alex Salmond say on the radio that he had a conversation with Dennis Skinner who told him the challenge to Corbyn is because Corbyn said that he would support the prosecution of Blair if the Chilcot report is a bad as it is being claimed.

Is that what it is all about?

Not the stupidest conspiracy theory I've heard this week. The speed and ferocity with which the party has turned on Corbyn certainly suggests that the EU vote isn't the only thing the PLP is concerned about.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Farron. Tim Farron.

But it's pronounced, 'Who Cares'.