Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[Supine]

(2) Which of the 12 or so Labour MPs that backed Leave do you think should replace Corbyn?

No idea - the whole thing is a clusterfuck mixed with an omnishambles

 

[Lord Camomile]

If he was really an exiter then he should have lead the party in that direction. The landscape would certainly be different if he had.

Either way, which Brexiter should now lead the Labour party?

 

[Mr.Bishie]

The whole thing is a clusterfuck mixed with an omnishambles

I think it's fuckin great, long overdue.

 

[Idris2002]

 

[ViolentPanda]

Just emailed 'team labour' and told them to grow up and sort their lives out but slightly more eloquently

"Hi, arse-boils!
What an immature bunch of pig-fucking, red Tory shitcunts you are. Why don't the lot of you wait until your balls drop, before engaging in politics, you star-bellied sneeches?".

 

[butchersapron]

I like Corbyn but for me there is one fundamental reason why he needs to go. He campaigned for remain and was on the losing side. As per Cameron resigning so that a Brexiter can lead JC needs to do the same.

Whichever side wins it needs to be done quickly - Labour couldn't ruffle Camerons feathers at PMQ today and that needs to change.

So one lot want him out for campaigning for stay and the other lot want him out for not campaigning to stay.

 

[butchersapron]

I like Corbyn but for me there is one fundamental reason why he needs to go. He campaigned for remain and was on the losing side. As per Cameron resigning so that a Brexiter can lead JC needs to do the same.

Whichever side wins it needs to be done quickly - Labour couldn't ruffle Camerons feathers at PMQ today and that needs to change.

Which of these gets your support then?

1. Dennis Skinner

2. Frank Field

3. Gisela Stuart

4. Graham Stringer

5. John Cryer

6. Kate Hoey

7. Kelvin Hopkins

8. Roger Godsiff

9. Ronnie Campbell

10. John Mann

 

[brogdale]

Either way, which Brexiter should now lead the Labour party?

 

[YouSir]

Which of these gets your support then?

1. Dennis Skinner

2. Frank Field

3. Gisela Stuart

4. Graham Stringer

5. John Cryer

6. Kate Hoey

7. Kelvin Hopkins

8. Roger Godsiff

9. Ronnie Campbell

10. John Mann

Harvest organs from the 172 to reinvigorate Skinner and then go with him.

 

[billy_bob]

I like Corbyn but for me there is one fundamental reason why he needs to go. He campaigned for remain and was on the losing side. As per Cameron resigning so that a Brexiter can lead JC needs to do the same.

Sorry, but that would be a stupid reason to resign. For all Corbyn's apparently lukewarm enthusiasm for it, Labour campaigned for Remain.

And they're the opposition party. There are self-evidently a lot of people in the country at the moment feeling that they aren't represented by the result of the referendum. A credible opposition party may need to accept the result and the (slim) majority behind it, but also should keep the pressure on whichever rabid loon takes over from Cameroon starts to implement this divorce to take some account of the concerns of the (only just) minority. How's that going to happen if the leader of the labour party was pro-Leave?

e2a: I agree that Corbyn's lack of enthusiasm re Remain was unhelpful. If he really was more to the Leave end of the spectrum, he should have either said so, or done a better job of disguising it.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Blunkett: "fringe element captured the party last year" "we need to appeal to good, honest, decent people"

Always a good belly laugh when Blunkett bangs on about honesty and decency, the dishonest cunt.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Ed Millipede now asking JC to resign

 

[billy_bob]

I think it's fuckin great, long overdue.

Yes. About time this boil was lanced. Either the Labour right will retain the party, in which case it can safely be written off as the Lib Dems have. Or it won't, and at least we'll get to see whether a slightly different vision of what the party should be would work or not.

 

[DotCommunist]

Ed Millipede now asking JC to resign

cheek of the cunt, with his divorce beard and record of timidity and failure

 

[billy_bob]

Always a good belly laugh when Blunkett bangs on about honesty and decency, the dishonest cunt.

He went from 'respecting the will of the ordinary members' to pretty much calling for them to be gulag-ed in about 90 seconds on BBC News last night.

One of the nastiest pieces of work in any of the governments of the 2000s, in my view.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Ed Millipede now asking JC to resign

Yep - Miliband is now on the radio saying that Corbyn should leave and explicitly stating that he shouldn't stand for re-election as the opinion of the MPs opposing him is more important than that of the party membership.

Of course it is dressed up in the rhetoric of it's for the good of the country, whilst trying to smear Corbyn and leavers by association with the taint of racism.

It is all or nothing now for the Labour Party; either it is the MPs' plaything or it has the chance to become a membership lead organization. If it goes down the MPs' plaything route then the vacuum in British political life becomes bigger and more forcefully expressed.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[YouSir]

Ed Millipede now asking JC to resign

Barrel being scraped then. Blair next and they can call it a day.

 

[J Ed]

If you were an alien from outerspace watching the news you would think that it was Corbyn rather than Cameron who had called the EU referendum in the first place.

 

[free spirit]

my facebook timeline is showing a few joining the labour party to support corbyn, and my dad even said he thought he should last night. Will this coup against this unelectable leader result in another spike in membership to support him?

 

[billy_bob]

cheek of the cunt, with his divorce beard and record of timidity and failure

Anyone notice his body language on QT the other week? Very interesting - no more of the diffident awkwardness. He was all leaning back, arm across the back of the chair. He clearly thinks he's done enough to be regarded as some kind of oracle/elder statesman.

 

[SaskiaJayne]

Cameron now asking JC to resign because a strong opposition is needed. I speculate that this is because centrist Cameron is worried about the right taking control of the Tory party, yes?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Ed Millipede now asking JC to resign

So cruel. Obviously Corbyn was never going to live up to the high watermark set by Miliband's leadership, and it's unfair to even expect him to.

 

[J Ed]

Cameron now asking JC to resign because a strong opposition is needed. I speculate that this is because centrist Cameron is worried about the right taking control of the Tory party, yes?

It's just more choreographed media spectacle, I think that all of this stuff has to be understood within that context before you consider the individual motivations.

 

[DotCommunist]

Anyone notice his body language on QT the other week? Very interesting - no more of the diffident awkwardness. He was all leaning back, arm across the back of the chair. He clearly thinks he's done enough to be regarded as some kind of oracle/elder statesman.

a seasoned veteran of the game. 'I too was once a twonk but I rose, and I fell. It is better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all'

 

[brogdale]

Barrel being scraped then. Blair next and they can call it a day.

Unless they can legally exclude Corbyn from the leadership ballot, this incessant pressure is all they've got. They know full well when they press the 'nuclear button' of a contest including Corbyn they're finished.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Interestingly if those calling for Corbyn to go thought they would win a new leadership election then they would go for it; after all it would answer any questions of legitimacy being put to them. But they won't because they can't and that tells you all you need to know about their opinion of the membership (not to be trusted) and of their own democratic processes (not really needed).

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[billy_bob]

Ed Millipede now asking JC to resign

It's like Tim Henman commentating Andy Murray's tennis matches.

"What he should do is..."
"Er, thanks... you couldn't run along and get me a banana and a cold drink, could you, seeing as you're hanging around anyway?"

 

[BandWagon]

Just a thought, has there been any mention of David Milliband coming back?

 

[Sprocket.]

SIR Eric Pickles? How the fuck did that happen?

I know, nearly as shocking as Dame Rosie Winterton!

 

[brogdale]

Just a thought, has there been any mention of David Milliband coming back?

Batley & Spen?