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Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

The Tories are going to spend the next few months at each others throats while selecting one of the assorted hatemongers who were at the forefront of the Leave campaign to be their new frontgit
I really hope Corbyn lays about them with a fierceness he has not displayed as yet
Labour should not be fucking about getting rid of him when this is exactly the time to be attacking the Tories
He's about as fierce as the toy sheep I'm currently rubbing on my cock. The fucking plum.
 
The Tories are going to spend the next few months at each others throats while selecting one of the assorted hatemongers who were at the forefront of the Leave campaign to be their new frontgit
I really hope Corbyn lays about them with a fierceness he has not displayed as yet
Labour should not be fucking about getting rid of him when this is exactly the time to be attacking the Tories
They've already selected; we know it will be Boris ffs. Who else; Gove? Fuck me which one of these shit disturbers is worse?
 
Remain didn't even do that badly among 2015 Labour voters, in fact almost equally well as SNP voters. But the facts don't really matter.
 
Boris is cold, vile and ruthless.Do you really think he'd give a job to fuckwit like Dunking-Smith out off feelings of loyalty?
I've no idea what he'd do. But if he thought IDs was the man for the job, to return to the DWP, i wouldn't be at all surprised.

I want neither of them anywhere near power. How the fuck Boris has positioned himself to be the pm in waiting i do not know.
 
I've no idea what he'd do. But if he thought IDs was the man for the job, to return to the DWP, i wouldn't be at all surprised.

I want neither of them anywhere near power. How the fuck Boris has positioned himself to be the pm in waiting i do not know.
Spot on
I think he owes his current Crown, as opposed to Clown, Prince because the completion is even worse than him :(:mad:
 
This from a mason piece linked to by bishie elsewhere sounds sensible:

2. Demand an election within 6–9 months: Cameron has no mandate to negotiate Brexit. The parties must be allowed to put their respective Brexit plans to the electorate and thereafter run the negotiations. In that Labour should: [more at link i don't agree with - but this point, yes]
 
This from a mason piece linked to by bishie elsewhere sounds sensible:

2. Demand an election within 6–9 months: Cameron has no mandate to negotiate Brexit. The parties must be allowed to put their respective Brexit plans to the electorate and thereafter run the negotiations. In that Labour should: [more at link i don't agree with - but this point, yes]
No thank you I'd rather not see Labour replaced with a load of kippers, collective responsibility of Parliament good enough. Or are we to sit the country down explain ALL the nuisances of administrative affairs before they vote


Hard Road for seats tories don't give a toss about (though I like Scotland attached) John Mann to square the circle at a later date. We have little sleep, a glittery world and at least years.
 
No thank you I'd rather not see Labour replaced with a load of kippers, collective responsibility of Parliament good enough. Or are we to sit the country down explain ALL the nuisances of administrative affairs before they vote


Hard Road for seats tories don't give a toss about (though I like Scotland attached) John Mann to square the circle at a later date. We have little sleep, a glittery world and at least years.
What?
 
This from a mason piece linked to by bishie elsewhere sounds sensible:

2. Demand an election within 6–9 months: Cameron has no mandate to negotiate Brexit. The parties must be allowed to put their respective Brexit plans to the electorate and thereafter run the negotiations. In that Labour should: [more at link i don't agree with - but this point, yes]

If that is what happens Corbyn needs to have and win a leadership election as soon as possible, because there is no other way of preventing the PLP from getting "let us back in, please" into the manifesto and thereby losing yet another election.
 
If that is what happens Corbyn needs to have and win a leadership election as soon as possible, because there is no other way of preventing the PLP from getting "let us back in, please" into the manifesto and thereby losing yet another election.
Either that or it's Plan B, and TBH being able to persuade enough of the shadow cabinet to get into a Chinook to fly through a fog bank to a team-building away day in the Scottish Highlands seems unlikely.
 
Majority will be prefer what is possible with current parliamentary make up and your election just kills labour outside london
What do you mean what is possible with current parliamentary make up ?

Didn't you hear, large swathes of remain supporters in the important cities are behind corbyn.
 
What do you mean what is possible with current parliamentary make up ?

Didn't you hear, large swathes of remain supporters in the important cities are behind corbyn.

I am thinking of the remainers. They will only pass the EEA membership (which is cool, it fits well with one of the major strands of Leave (the other is frankly on another planet). But eventually efforts are going to made to show that Labour is listening to the areas it has left behind - not going "how can we make you understand" in as slow and patronising language - that way UKIP grows.

In an ideal world, yes we'd have people deciding which exit plan they want their elected representatives to advocate, but that means expecting the populus to have got its head round documents like this (and thats the abridged down from 700 page version) and thats just one exit plan. But the reality is I don't think the hubub over one bollocks sentence written on the side of a bus is faux.
 
Some of the deprived area's of the country were receiving lots of support from the EU and Labour should have been out there shouting from the roof tops that you will loose this if we leave with no guarantee of it being replaced and as far as I can tell they hardly said a word and if they did, they did not make themselves heard. THe remain campaign from Labour was totally ineffective. Some of those places have voted out and consequently shot themselves in the foot; EU Referendum: Cornwall plea to replace EU millions - BBC News
 
Some of the deprived area's of the country were receiving lots of support from the EU and Labour should have been out there shouting from the roof tops that you will loose this if we leave with no guarantee of it being replaced and as far as I can tell they hardly said a word and if they did, they did not make themselves heard.

What? Firstly EU grants/supports ultimately come from member states, it's not some magic pot that the EU has of its own that it gives out because its 'kind'. Deprived areas of the country are like that because not only the Tories but also Labour's shift to neoliberalism and abandonment of those communities (and their industries) made this happen. Labour have fuck all to shout about.
 
can anyone distil the process / rules involved in the LP leadership challenge , as it now is, ie : how many no confidence backers needed for a vote, how many (PLP only ? ) votes needed to depose the leader, and at what point the membership gets to vote ( if at all ) ?

(thanks in advance)
 
Regardless of cause, which is a seperate issue, at least EU grants helped those area's. Those grants will now be lost and there is certainly no guarantee that those areas will get any further support, especially under the current regime. The Tory's ceratinly don't and won't care.
 
Regardless of cause, which is a seperate issue, at least EU grants helped those area's. Those grants will now be lost and there is certainly no guarantee that those areas will get any further support, especially under the current regime. The Tory's ceratinly don't and won't care.
Tell me who they helped in those areas and why the working class there remained the most deprived in the country, in Europe almost. Tell me who benefited exactly.
 
can anyone distil the process / rules involved in the LP leadership challenge , as it now is, ie : how many no confidence backers needed for a vote, how many (PLP only ? ) votes needed to depose the leader, and at what point the membership gets to vote ( if at all ) ?
It doesn't go to a vote unless Jon cyrer decides that it should. Then it's simple majority.
 
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