Jeremy Corbyn's time is up
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8ball
Decolonise colons!
There will soon be the obvious example of all the Brexit promises being ignored.
kazza007
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The opportunity was missed when they failed to tackle northern heartlands concerns over immigration and downward pressure of jobs and wages. Ukip hoovered that up. There will be an illusion amongst some of those voters that brexit has magically helped to sort these issues , which it obviously hasn't or will.
Contenders, I don't know, there are no obvious choices .. Burnham (is he still around?), Chukka, e Milliband, benn?
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
Seriously? Contenders to regain lost working class support...are you sure?
Cheers - Louis MacNiece
redsquirrel
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Yes I can really see Umunna, a major Remain backer, winning over Leave voters.
There's been so many loons coming out of the woodwork in the last two days it's hard to tell who's real and who's on a wind up
There's been so many loons coming out of the woodwork in the last two days it's hard to tell who's real and who's on a wind up
redsquirrel
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I think Burnham is an important player in this. The Hillsborough inquiry got him some decent press and I'd say his credit is higher now than when he ran back in 2015. If he were to back Corbyn that would strengthen Corbyn's hand appreciably IMO. Of course he may use that credit to mount another go at the leadership.
kazza007
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Which shows how fucked labour are, especially as they're obvious front runners, either way.
So apart from Burnham, who else would you say?
kazza007
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The aforementioned are all remain backers whether big or small in the campaign, you loon.
Who would you suggest to front a seriously fucked up labour movement?
redsquirrel
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Hang on there's not even been a leadership election called yet, the no confidence motion hasn't even been accepted let alone voted on.
Then there's the fact that Corbyn could easily run again. Alternatively if he doesn't fancy it McDonnell or someone else could run as a 'momentum' candidate.
And neither Miliband nor Umunna are front runners, Miliband is not going to be returned as leader 12 months after he stood down even if he ran and Umunna chickened out previously and is from the faction that 4.5% of the vote.
Then there's the fact that Corbyn could easily run again. Alternatively if he doesn't fancy it McDonnell or someone else could run as a 'momentum' candidate.
And neither Miliband nor Umunna are front runners, Miliband is not going to be returned as leader 12 months after he stood down even if he ran and Umunna chickened out previously and is from the faction that 4.5% of the vote.
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
It wasn't Corbyn that lost votes to UKIP, it was the New Labour project. The election of Corbyn as leader was a reaction to those losses. I fail to see how a return to a Blairite platform would fix anything.
kazza007
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I agree , and corbyn has done well to increase young membership of the party, but he has, as I see it, failed to get those failed new labour votes back , and this result is a symptom of that failure .
redsquirrel
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All Labour MPs bar 12 (or whatever) supported Remain, that's not the point. The point is that not all campaigned as he did. There is no possible way that Umunna a privately educated, privileged, right wing neo-liberal Blairite professional politician wanker is going to appeal to the potential Labour vote amongst that who voted Leave
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Ole
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What votes has he lost to UKIP you bullshitting twat.
Lost the confidence of his party
the right-wing of the PLP were sticking the knife in him before day 1 of the fucking job. The people who voted for him have still got plenty of time for him.redsquirrel
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These people never were New Labour voters. The New Labour vote was a Remain vote.
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
Well I'm convinced.
kazza007
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It's a matter of time when it is accepted and voted on, I think. No doubt corbyn would run again and win with there being no natural successor.
If he stays on and can't win a GE given the mess Tory's are in, then I don't see hope.
kazza007
Bunned
Really ? You don't say . He wasn't my choice , but I was asked for possible contenders , so named the more obvious choices which labour may support , rightly or wrongly , especially given his previous leadership ambitions.
I'm not say who was supposed to be appeal to the ex labour voters, but who may put themselves in the ring.
eatmorecheese
He's fallen out of the car again
Hilary Benn sacked!
kazza007
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Plenty of people have switched allegiances to ukip from labour and the Tory's.What votes has he lost to UKIP you bullshitting twat.
Lost the confidence of his party
You love jezza, we get it
He's on borrowed Time, I'm sorry to tell you.
Labour should now regroup around a plausible future leader who can capitalise on a fractured Tory party, if they can't now , it will be another long wait.
redsquirrel
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You got a link?
kazza007
Bunned
Question is: will jezza resign respectfully , or will there be a coup ? It will be painful to see him dragged away kicking and screaming.
When will it happen? Days, weeks, months ?
Who is the next leader? Burnham would get my vote from those names, who could re-engage with ex labour voters.
When will it happen? Days, weeks, months ?
Who is the next leader? Burnham would get my vote from those names, who could re-engage with ex labour voters.
JimW
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Shame defenestration wasn't available.
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Beermoth
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Reported on Sky News. It's ON.
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