TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
Looks like UKIP and the Lib Dems had a better night? I suppose -18 council seats is a sign of something or other though.
Jeremy Corbyn's time is up
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Looks like UKIP and the Lib Dems had a better night? I suppose -18 council seats is a sign of something or other though.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
long knives traditionally weilded at night obvs
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
PD drone strike more like
bi0boy
Power User
He's got to do something. At the moment he's doing fuck all and there's a massive power vacuum with basically no PM, chancellor or leader of the opposition doing anything other than hiding from the media.
hash tag
Books, not bombs
Torys are not without their problems at the moment to say the least and you cant say we did not expect them, regardless of the result. So when is the time to hit them and hit them hard? So what hapens to Labour Brexit: 'Half' of Labour top team set to resign - BBC News 
kavenism
Progressive misanthrope
maomao
普費斯
He needs to do something very soon but it didn't have to be yesterday. There's no point in him making a big speech. It would only ever appear in edited and unflattering form anyway. He needs to sack the disloyal members of the party and if necessary get himself re-elected on his vision of Brexit.
Andy Burnham's concern the other week about labour being all about Hampstead and not Hull was reflected in the way former labour supporters view labour.
All labour have done since the nineteen eighties is appear, rightly or wrongly, to suck up to the middle class, business and the media barons.
I cannot recall seeing either Winterton or Flint doing anything local for the Remain campaign, only Ed put himself around the borough and standing up for what he wanted.
Labour has relied far too much on voter loyalty and UKIP exploited the void left by gravy train riding professional politicians.
Corbyn should have been more forceful, but all the leavers I work with all said that they believe that Corbyn wanted Leave to win anyway.
All labour have done since the nineteen eighties is appear, rightly or wrongly, to suck up to the middle class, business and the media barons.
I cannot recall seeing either Winterton or Flint doing anything local for the Remain campaign, only Ed put himself around the borough and standing up for what he wanted.
Labour has relied far too much on voter loyalty and UKIP exploited the void left by gravy train riding professional politicians.
Corbyn should have been more forceful, but all the leavers I work with all said that they believe that Corbyn wanted Leave to win anyway.
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Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
As much as I dislike most of his detractors in the party, Corbyn does seem to have a bit of a problem with letting them dictate the discourse and events.
Even with the dismissing of Benn, the BBC are reporting it through a quote from Benn, not Corbyn. And now half his SC resigning, rather than him telling them to piss off.
Of course they're idiots for wasting time on this rather than presenting a united front against the Tory shambles, but I feel like Corbyn could be playing it far better too. Then again, my experience of politically from watching lots of West Wing and Thick of It, not 20+ years as an MP...
Even with the dismissing of Benn, the BBC are reporting it through a quote from Benn, not Corbyn. And now half his SC resigning, rather than him telling them to piss off.
Of course they're idiots for wasting time on this rather than presenting a united front against the Tory shambles, but I feel like Corbyn could be playing it far better too. Then again, my experience of politically from watching lots of West Wing and Thick of It, not 20+ years as an MP...
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maomao
普費斯
Would be nice if it's all part of the plan. Benn is like Rickon Stark. Now he's down the rest have to rush into the fray and he has a plan to destroy them all. More likely there is no fucking plan though. 
4 years from now Prime Minister Benn leads us into a proper shit sandwich of a deal with the EU.
4 years from now Prime Minister Benn leads us into a proper shit sandwich of a deal with the EU.
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Problem he's got is that nuLabour are tight with the media to a far greater extent, so it always frames everything in their favour.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Aye, hard to argue with that. as I say though, he could still do things himself, get I their first rather than have to react to their actions.
Just how disastrous would it be just to sack it in and say "right*, you have the carcass of the Labour party, we're going to form a new, actually left wing party"? Would they become a fringe nuisance like Galloway and Respect, or do they have enough support and recognition from the £3ers et al to do something. I suppose therewere only thousands, not millions of them, so probably the former. Oh, well...
*pun not intended but fuck it, let's leave it in
cuppa tee
Well-Known Member
Corbyn heckler exposed as Blairite PR consultant
Craig Murray - Vauntie Cybernat, Former Ambassador, Human Rights Activist
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yes, there is no planWould be nice if it's all part of the plan. Benn is like Rickon Stark. Now he's down the rest have to rush into the fray and he has a plan to destroy them all. More likely there is no fucking plan though.
Batshitter.
bi0boy
Power User
It's more the fact he put himself in a position where being heckled by a one guy could become the only thing he did of note that day.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Well that's why we are seeing this, isn't it? The job of the right of Labour is currently to destroy Labour's electoral prospects at any cost, the closer a Corbyn led Labour is to power the greater the urgency of the wrecking project.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
So a politician who won his leadership election at least in part on the basis of being a different sort of politician, one who listened to the public, should have hidden himself away for fear of a Blairite stunt; how would that be spun?
Corbyn to afraid to show his face.
Corbyn turns his back on Pride.
Homophobe Corbyn.
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
He isn't in the cabinet.Unconfirmed, but Chuka may have gone too. This could turn out to be a very good day
bi0boy
Power User
I didn't say he should hide away - quite the opposite.
Sure he could have gone to Pride - but perhaps there is something else going on that he should have got involved in?
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
He isn't in the cabinet.
But he should be and so he has symbolically resigned in solidarity with his anti-Corbyn colleagues...not as a further move in his alleged 'second coming' (copyright Guardian Weekend).
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
p.s. just so as we're clear I do know he hasn't actually resigned...not being in the shadow cabinet and all.
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