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Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

Corbyn has to go. Labour are unelectable with him at the helm. I don't doubt his principles, but his leadership is weak and crumbling. Rapidly losing support and confidence of his MPs. Slow off the mark for remain, he could barely hide his real opinion for wanting to be out of the EU. Lost many voters to ukip and brexit in recent times in traditional labour heartlands. Time's up, jezza. No idea who an ideal replacement could be, but as mentioned earlier , if labour can't capitalise from an increasingly fractured Tory , then they're fucked for a long while.
You don't have a single original thought in your head.
 
Jezza, principled man with convictions, living in a bygone socialist era and with little leadership skills or control or confidence of his cabinet as they are pushed or jumped.

What should he do? Do you think he can assemble a SC and win a GE with a clear majority?
 
Plenty of people have switched allegiances to ukip from labour and the Tory's.

You love jezza, we get it :D

He's on borrowed Time, I'm sorry to tell you.

Labour should now regroup around a plausible future leader who can capitalise on a fractured Tory party, if they can't now , it will be another long wait.
You might as well say what Hodgson needs to do now is to get england to win all their remaining games in the euros. It's content free.
 
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It's always difficult when many here support corbyn and in some fantastical world believe he is a strong leader that can you unite his party and bring back ex voters. Because what is happening here and in the referendum is not the case. He did ok in the recent elections, and that allowed him to survive a little longer.
A new leader is needed to prevent damage limitation.
 
Jezza, principled man with convictions, living in a bygone socialist era and with little leadership skills or control or confidence of his cabinet as they are pushed or jumped.

What should he do? Do you think he can assemble a SC and win a GE with a clear majority?
Tripe and tropes.
 
It's always difficult when many here support corbyn and in some fantastical world believe he is a strong leader that can you unite his party and bring back ex voters. Because what is happening here and in the referendum is not the case. He did ok in the recent elections, and that allowed him to survive a little longer.
A new leader is needed to prevent damage limitation.

Like who? Lemme guess, some Blairite twunt?
 
Like who? Lemme guess, some Blairite twunt?
No I'm not a blairite. Corbyn would have done well in the past industrial era, and I support his strong convictions and ideology , but that alone cannot win elections, that alone cannot bring back ex voters .
I don't have a solution, but the party need to regroup as time is now to capitalise on a fractured Tory party.
 
It's always difficult when many here support corbyn and in some fantastical world believe he is a strong leader that can you unite his party and bring back ex voters. Because what is happening here and in the referendum is not the case. He did ok in the recent elections, and that allowed him to survive a little longer.
A new leader is needed to prevent damage limitation.
Well say who, say why they are credible as leader, why they would do better than corbyn (where, why and how again please) and the method by which they become leader. Please say something substantive.

If you have no answer to these questions you're not actually saying anything at all.
 
Well say who, say why they are credible as leader, why they do better than corbyn and the method by which they become leader. Please say something substantive.
Read my posts then. I named several possibilities who I believe to be front runners, and I would support Burnham to be the ideal candidate to bring back ex voters , which is the key.
 
No I'm not a blairite. Corbyn would have done well in the past industrial era, and I support his strong convictions and ideology , but that alone cannot win elections, that alone cannot bring back ex voters .
I don't have a solution, but the party need to regroup as time is now to capitalise on a fractured Tory party.

Having yet another leadership contest doesn't strike me as a good way to capitalise on Tory infighting.
 
Read my posts then. I named several possibilities who I believe to be front runners, and I would support Burnham to be the ideal candidate to bring back ex voters , which is the key.
No, you named people who might decide to be candidates - nothing else. Nothing to answer a single one of the questions i just put to you.
 
Having yet another leadership contest doesn't strike me as a good way to capitalise on Tory infighting.
Well it's not something we can choose. There's likely to be a vote of no confidence , I expect more resignation, and corbyn to leave at some point honourably rather than face a leadership contest.
 
Well it's not something we can choose. There's likely to be a vote of no confidence , I expect more resignation, and corbyn to leave at some point honourably rather than face a leadership contest.

So a vote of no confidence just happens as one of those "laws of nature" things? It has nothing to do with the machinations of the Labour right and the near-constant monstering of Corbyn by a pliant media?
 
Read my posts then. I named several possibilities who I believe to be front runners, and I would support Burnham to be the ideal candidate to bring back ex voters , which is the key.
Burnham was a weak candidate when he stood last, he stands for nothing, a Burnham leadership would guarantee a tory win in 2020.
 
Corbyn is the solution, it was the New Labour project that scored a massive fail on Thursday, not Corbyn. It was the wet career New Labour politicians that campaigned hardest, working for their corporate masters, while the true core of Labour the former working class who feel abandoned by New Labour, voted to Leave. Hillary Benn good riddance. His Dad was true quality.

"In practice, Britain will be governed by a European coalition government that we cannot change, dedicated to a capitalist or market economy theology. This policy is to be sold to us by projecting an unjustified optimism about the Community, and an unjustified pessimism about the United Kingdom, designed to frighten us in. Jim quoted Benjamin Franklin, so let me do the same: "He who would give up essential liberty for a little temporary security deserves neither safety nor liberty." Tony Benn speaking in 1975

Of course the mainstream newspapers hate Corbyn, even the BBC don't like him as he doesn't represent the media classes. I agree with Tony Benn, the European Union was promoting Capitalist Market Economy theology, we are better off out. Where is our Podemos? Isn't Corbyn and his Labour closest to what the Left has to a chance of victory?
 
Well say who, say why they are credible as leader, why they would do better than corbyn (where, why and how again please) and the method by which they become leader. Please say something substantive.

If you have no answer to these questions you're not actually saying anything at all.

Just to re affirm this, cos you tend to know, but we sure that Corbyn needs PLP backers, as incumbent, to get on the ticket if ( when ) there's a leadership challenge ?
 
I like to think he's letting people resign rather than having already sacked everyone because he's spending the time elsewhere on something that matters more but maybe that's me being a bit too naive
 
Burnham's northern roots will go some way to reconnect with old labour heartlands I think, his work with Hillsborough helped, he has multi department experience , strong ties to the unions and a progressive socialist, I think he would be an ideal opposition candidate at this time.
 
It is -do you think Jeremy can find 46 MP's who would support his re-election candidacy? - if yes, the volatility on tomorrows stock market will be down to the Blairite headless chicken-ism.
 
Just to re affirm this, cos you tend to know, but we sure that Corbyn needs PLP backers, as incumbent, to get on the ticket if ( when ) there's a leadership challenge ?
AFAIK, Corbyn's name is automatically included on the ballot. No nominations required.
 
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