Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[The39thStep]

Hodge the millionaire child abuse covering up one. Cryer should just chuck it out - not accept it. They would.

Coffey actively involved in 'uncovering' paedo rings - now teaming up with someone implicated in one.

Coffey is an active Blairite

 

[rubbershoes]

I literally don't

Oh well

 

[cantsin]

Corbyn has kept himself at arms length to much of the tory driven pantomime and not got involved in too much hyperbole. Was this part of a long to exploit a result either way ? I have heard this from a couple of labourites today, suggesting he is clever strategic man.

Not convinced myself

'7.5 / 10 ' ?? Point blank refusal to share a platform with Tories ? WTF do you think he was doing ?

 

[The39thStep]

He's not a good communicator.

Perhaps we need a return to the hard hitting firebrand conviction and eloquence of Ed Milliband

 

[SpookyFrank]

I'm a bit confused why anyone would think he needs to go? that would be that last thing on my mind!

More a case of those who have wanted him gone since day one smell blood. Would Labour do better if Corbyn was replaced with another Blairite? No, but that blairite and their chums will be happy and that's all that matters.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Perhaps we need a return to the hard hitting firebrand conviction and eloquence of Ed Milliband

He did the business in Donny last night. 31% for remain.

#manofthenorthernpeople

 

[Plumdaff]

Would we - are we discussing him losing all trad labour areas that went leave? And i think we need constituency results for those larger cities you mention above - that's what counts, not what the total across these cities were. There are plenty of non-labour mps in these places.

You'd talked about Corbyn could have led a reconciliation between voters in places like Blaenau Gwent and the party by standing for out. Here in Wales the conversation is very much about those traditional Labour places going leave. I just think he might have factored in losing the support of Labour voters in some of the major cities had he done so. After all, the places that most came out for Remain are also Labour strongholds.

 

[Duncan2]

These condescending twats Ben Bradshaw Jeremy is a nice man but....how the fuck this result reflects badly on Corbyn I cannot understand.As others have said he just told it like it is refused to say he appreciated the EU 110 per cent as twat Bradshaw just suggested he should have done.Am hoping the wider membership will keep Corbyn in place.He saw this coming his MPs, bleating now, did not.

 

[killer b]

He's not a good communicator.

I don't agree. I think his position - while nuanced - was very well articulated. It was very poorly reported though. Is he responsible for that?

 

[DaveCinzano]

Amazing 12 months ago he was going to save us all, now he needs to go.

Typical - stabbed in the back by opportunistic Blairites Hawkmen, again

 

[rutabowa]

I don't agree. I think his position - while nuanced - was very well articulated. It was very poorly reported though. Is he responsible for that?

Yep, he was the only public person who persuaded me to vote remain. Most of the rest of the campaign had exactly the opposite effect tbh. Of course I forgot to vote in the end anyway.

 

[Biscuitician]

He doesn't want to play the game of thrones, he wants to get on with actual stuff.

So he's been doomed since day one really.

Maybe, maybe not, but as long as the Lannisters remain in his party he will be cut and bled.

Also what I hear about Momentum is that they have become increasingly insular and are dwindling somewhat as a result, from the initial Corbyn buzz.

 

[Biscuitician]

Typical - stabbed in the back by opportunistic Blairites Hawkmen, again

 

[Louis MacNeice]

If I was Corbyn I might think about telling the PLP that

These condescending twats Ben Bradshaw Jeremy is a nice man but....how the fuck this result reflects badly on Corbyn I cannot understand.As others have said he just told it like it is refused to say he appreciated the EU 110 per cent as twat Bradshaw just suggested he should have done.Am hoping the wider membership will keep Corbyn in place.He saw this coming his MPs, bleating now, did not.

Bradshaw was actually worse than that. He pretended that Corbyn had said the referendum only warranted a 7 out of 10, not the EU; the interviewer didn't pick him up on this misrepresentation.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[rubbershoes]

I don't agree. I think his position - while nuanced - was very well articulated. It was very poorly reported though. Is he responsible for that?

You're right that the media have never given him the time of day. We agree on something

But he just doesn't come across as either a leader or charismatic. In modern politics I think you need to be. m It's a shame that the quiet man with good ideas doesn't get the chance to put their view across. Christ. That sounds as if I'm speaking up for Iain Duncan Smith. I'm going to kill myself now

 

[killer b]

Charisma doesn't count for shit if no-one can see or hear you.

In his way Corbyn is charismatic anyway. His leadership campaign last summer was a lesson in charisma, as much as anything else.

 

[butchersapron]

You'd talked about Corbyn could have led a reconciliation between voters in places like Blaenau Gwent and the party by standing for out. Here in Wales the conversation is very much about those traditional Labour places going leave. I just think he might have factored in losing the support of Labour voters in some of the major cities had he done so. After all, the places that most came out for Remain are also Labour strongholds.

Again, we need constituency results to be able to say that so firmly.

 

[Artaxerxes]

You're right that the media have never given him the time of day. We agree on something

But he just doesn't come across as either a leader or charismatic. In modern politics I think you need to be. m It's a shame that the quiet man with good ideas doesn't get the chance to put their view across. Christ. That sounds as if I'm speaking up for Iain Duncan Smith. I'm going to kill myself now

IDS wasn't quiet enough and has never had a good idea.

 

[Pickman's model]

IDS wasn't quiet enough and has never had a good idea.

yeh well if he does away with himself you'll have to amend that post

 

[Artaxerxes]

yeh well if he does away with himself you'll have to amend that post

Nah, it means he's deprived us of the chance to string him up or descend into a pissing dribble wreck of a human being as age breaks him down.

 

[Pickman's model]

Nah, it means he's deprived us of the chance to string him up or descend into a pissing dribble wreck of a human being as age breaks him down.

it'd still be the best idea he'd ever had

 

[The39thStep]

He did the business in Donny last night. 31% for remain.

#manofthenorthernpeople

Those pig headed selfish old fashioned uneducated racist little englanders don't deserve to be represented by someone like him.

 

[Pickman's model]

He did the business in Donny last night. 31% for remain.

#manofthenorthernpeople

yeh down from 40% the night before.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

You're right that the media have never given him the time of day. We agree on something

But he just doesn't come across as either a leader or charismatic. In modern politics I think you need to be. m It's a shame that the quiet man with good ideas doesn't get the chance to put their view across. Christ. That sounds as if I'm speaking up for Iain Duncan Smith. I'm going to kill myself now

Did you see that question and answer session he did with the public on sky news? I thought he came off pretty well. Calm, confident and less annoying than other politicians. I'm not entirely convinced by Corbyn myself, but charisma doesn't win you elections in this country anyway. Is (was) Piggie Fiddler charismatic?

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Thinking about it, the most charismatic thing old Camo ever did was stick his winky in swine meat.

 

[dennisr]

More a case of those who have wanted him gone since day one smell blood. Would Labour do better if Corbyn was replaced with another Blairite? No, but that blairite and their chums will be happy and that's all that matters.

Maybe clearing the boards for the setting up of a "safe" second eleven as the tories collapse in recrimination?

 

[camouflage]

Personally, I think we need Corbyn in place now more than ever.

 

[Coolfonz]

Tories split, some defect to Ukip, cut Tory majority, 500,000 more on the dole, Brexiters panic, early election, Jeremy sweeps to power, marries Queen, becomes ruler and overlord...

Sorry got carried away at the end there.

 

[hipipol]

The Tories are going to spend the next few months at each others throats while selecting one of the assorted hatemongers who were at the forefront of the Leave campaign to be their new frontgit
I really hope Corbyn lays about them with a fierceness he has not displayed as yet
Labour should not be fucking about getting rid of him when this is exactly the time to be attacking the Tories

 

[Mr Moose]

I love how Labour areas voting in ways that are in line with Corbyn's long held beliefs are evidence how out of touch he is.

Were those voters supposed to be impressed by him ineffectually campaigning for the opposite viewpoint?