Those are interesting and probably not surprising figures. I think the interesting bit is the high level of 'in principle' support the public sector gets, whereas that vision has been eroded as a practical way of running society for 40 years or more. Alongside the 'in principle' bit there's been a long term ideological attack from tory, labour and the commentariat on the capacity of old style public sector management and administration, the notion of non-market mechanisms. To the point that no party is willing/able to present an unapologetic return to nationalisation, strong local authorities and a general booting out of the money changers as a political package (even Corbyn). Maybe it's the long term ideological attack that has left people somehow not willing to see a return to the old public corporations, Morrisonian model as an off the peg,, ready to go means of running society. But let's not get too dewey eyed, it's also people's experiences of being a tenant, user of services and the like back in that period. And it's about the experiences of local government today. You might like the idea of public services, but there's a disjuncture between that and the people who are carrying out real cuts to jobs and services as the guardians of that vision.How are we to achieve any of the following by voting?
YouGov | Nationalise energy and rail companies, say public
... and why is it that we got to vote on Brexit and not on the above, where the "will of the people" is much clearer?
I suspect we may well also know now when the labour party era (as rotating govt party anyway) comes to an end. Within a few years they will be supporting PR and then the party will finally shatter if it ever comes to pass.
it is better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all
Jeremy Corbyn wearing a very obscure t-shirt...
Jeremy Corbyn surprises Ware cafe owners on Easter cycling trip
I was just curious about what the t-shirt actually said. In Spanish it means '7% is the grade', according to this website the slogan refers to the fact that Nicaragua spends 7% of GDP on education.
This x1000
You reckon? He couldn't have taken the party with him, it'd have been a massive clusterfuck. Possibly no more massive than what he got anyway... but still.
I reckon so. I believe he would have tied the traditional vote to the party,. The flaky side was always going to flirt once more with the lib-dems in the case of a leave victory - and they are. The hardening polarised positions would then have him on the side of his core support rather than a) on the side of the flakes or b) with both pissed off at him. He's ended up with the latter and i think as consequence this may well be an election about labour's continued existence.
Yes, much of it left. It would have been attracted to a strong LEAVE position from their former party i think given the depth of anger and the clear class element to that anger. Couldn't be any worse than now anyway.
These are the flakes who are now running (back) to the lib-dems i am on about.
63% voted to stay. Most of these are going to be in seats in the south that labour do not and will not win. I think it's highly likely corbyn's lukewarm stay and post referendum urging May to get on with brexit allied with aggressive lib-dem annul the result posturing means these 1.3 are going to vote lib-dem. Making them both flakes and in areas where their vote doesn't really have an effect on labours fortunes. Some of the non-london city seats - the one i'm in for example - will have a slighly different dynamic that has much more to do with whether labour exists as viable party in the medium term. And a lot of those people are still going to vote for the lib-dems and against the parties existence.
