Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[ViolentPanda]

Why is it being considered an expose? It's a man saying something not particularly interesting over dinner.

Because journos love to provide a slant to stories, even if the slant is all their own invention.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Traitor to corby

I've been to Corby. Being a traitor to it isn't a big deal!

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Labour MPs call for ballots to signal open dissent against Corbyn

PLP in 'continuing whiny temper tantrum' shock.

 

[Vintage Paw]

God I wish they'd fuck off.

 

[cantsin]

I agree...its been billed as an expose, a bit embarrassing maybe, but interesting about Clive Lewis...Ive seen him interviewed once as a non-coup-er

edit / delete

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Labour MPs call for ballots to signal open dissent against Corbyn

PLP in 'continuing whiny temper tantrum' shock.

Labour backbenchers are preparing to call for a series of MPs’ ballots to signal their dissent from the party’s leadership on policy areas where they believe Jeremy Corbyn is out of step with mainstream public opinion.

Comedy that this seems to be based around Heathrow expansion - something which is massively unpopular with the public, at least all the public who live anywhere near Heathrow.

Heathrow expansion, which Corbyn opposes, will be the test case for the new approach, which one critical backbencher called “constructively muscular”

who is this "critical backbencher"
how old is he
is he in fact twelve

 

[Kid_Eternity]

But they're still not as empty and pointless as your post. Keep up the good work.

Cheers - Louis (typing it out each time) MacNeice

Lol ok then. I stand by my comment and think yours is indicative of the problem the party now faces. A delusion has beset the membership spurned on by an incompetent leadership who prefers ego massaging via rallies rather than impacting policies which actually affect our lives...


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[Kid_Eternity]

so policy shaping is to be done by whom? Don't you like democracy?

Sent from Mordor using a Palantir

It's not much of a democracy if a few hundred thousand people can ruin the appeal of a party to tens of millions.

Labour of screwed and it's their own doing.


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[emanymton]

Comedy that this seems to be based around Heathrow expansion - something which is massively unpopular with the public, at least all the public who live anywhere near Heathrow.

And frankly no one else gives a toss.

 

[redsquirrel]

And frankly no one else gives a toss.

Well the PLPs CBI mates do of course.

 

[cantsin]

Lol ok then. I stand by my comment and think yours is indicative of the problem the party now faces. A delusion has beset the membership spurned on by an incompetent leadership who prefers ego massaging via rallies rather than impacting policies which actually affect our lives...


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thought provoking and fresh new perspective on the whole thing, thanks for sharing

 

[DotCommunist]

It's not much of a democracy if a few hundred thousand people can ruin the appeal of a party to tens of millions.

Labour of screwed and it's their own doing.


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these are the people the labour party is supposed to be accountable to. The PLP are accountable also to their constituents yes, and also to the party. They've been on Project Fuck Corbyn since before day one of the first leadership election as have a massively hostile press. I'm no labourite but just as an observer it should be obvious who is trying to tank the party and crush its resurgent left. Its not the members and its not the union members and its not in general the wider party.

 

[bemused]

I wonder at what point the PLP will just accept their fate?

 

[redsquirrel]

Lol ok then. I stand by my comment and think yours is indicative of the problem the party now faces. A delusion has beset the membership spurned on by an incompetent leadership who prefers ego massaging via rallies rather than impacting policies which actually affect our lives..

What are these policies? Supporting Trident? Attacking those on welfare? Supporting the expansion of Heathrow? Ethical bombing campaigns?

 

[Libertad]

welfare

Social security?

 

[agricola]

I wonder at what point the PLP will just accept their fate?

 

[Convention]

these are the people the labour party is supposed to be accountable to. The PLP are accountable also to their constituents yes, and also to the party. They've been on Project Fuck Corbyn since before day one of the first leadership election as have a massively hostile press. I'm no labourite but just as an observer it should be obvious who is trying to tank the party and crush its resurgent left. Its not the members and its not the union members and its not in general the wider party.

This is true 100%. But isn't the other bit true as well? Corbyn is pretty shit generally at doing politics. He's a bit of a warm lettuce leaf. The Blairites have been trying to screw a warm lettuce leaf, and failed. Owen Smith couldn't even squeeze it. But then there are a lot of weirdos like Milne, some people from Momentum (Ms Walker), the freaks from the right of Labour like Bradsahw and the guy that shouted at Livingstone, Livingstone himself and so on and so on and so on. And generally the wider public, even sympathisers, just think, you bunch of absolute fucking cocks. I mean, you utter two-bob blends.
It's almost as if the Labour Party is a useless vehicle for change, or that it is a vehicle for change but it will take years - at least - for it to be roadworthy. Meanwhile the right and the far right are steaming ahead...

 

[J Ed]

For example, this is one of those people. Business owning neoliberal, very pro-Clinton and anti-Sanders. Happy both to maintain a boycott which hurts working-class people while donating to the party which is responsible for the bathroom law, gerrymandering, union-busting, some of the worst under funding of schools in the country.

but don't worry it isn't much money

 

[mauvais]

For example, this is one of those people. Business owning neoliberal, very pro-Clinton and anti-Sanders. Happy both to maintain a boycott which hurts working-class people while donating to the party which is responsible for the bathroom law, gerrymandering, union-busting, some of the worst under funding of schools in the country.

but don't worry it isn't much money

Wrong thread sir

 

[bemused]

Wrong thread sir

I've just googled her, what is shocking is people pay to listen to her talk.

 

[J Ed]

Wrong thread sir

Serves me right for posting before coffee!

 

[ViolentPanda]

Lol ok then. I stand by my comment and think yours is indicative of the problem the party now faces. A delusion has beset the membership spurned on by an incompetent leadership who prefers ego massaging via rallies rather than impacting policies which actually affect our lives...


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Please remind me, what is the extent of the policy-making apparatus available to either Corbyn or the PLP currently?

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Please remind me, what is the extent of the policy-making apparatus available to either Corbyn or the PLP currently?

If it wasn't for Corbyn the Tories would have to face the sheer ferocity of Andy Burnham or Owen Smith. They'd be powerless to resist with only their HoC majority to rely on.

 

[bemused]

Andy Burnham

When he wins Manchester Mayor he'll be the 3rd most smug person in Labour.

 

[cantsin]

This is true 100%. But isn't the other bit true as well? Corbyn is pretty shit generally at doing politics. He's a bit of a warm lettuce leaf. The Blairites have been trying to screw a warm lettuce leaf, and failed. Owen Smith couldn't even squeeze it. But then there are a lot of weirdos like Milne, some people from Momentum (Ms Walker), the freaks from the right of Labour like Bradsahw and the guy that shouted at Livingstone, Livingstone himself and so on and so on and so on. And generally the wider public, even sympathisers, just think, you bunch of absolute fucking cocks. I mean, you utter two-bob blends.
It's almost as if the Labour Party is a useless vehicle for change, or that it is a vehicle for change but it will take years - at least - for it to be roadworthy. Meanwhile the right and the far right are steaming ahead...

oh purlease, getting your knickers in a twist about "useless vehicles ...for change " and "the right and the far right ..steaming ahead" when you could barely fit a rizzla between May, UKIP and most of the LP's actual politics / policies over the last 20 yrs, and given the way May + co are suddenly rediscovering their inner Keynsians when it suits, it's not exactly an ideological chasm that divides her n' Corbo + Co. half the time.
Get real cuz.

 

[Greasy Boiler]

Lol ok then. I stand by my comment and think yours is indicative of the problem the party now faces. A delusion has beset the membership spurned on by an incompetent leadership who prefers ego massaging via rallies rather than impacting policies which actually affect our lives...

Fuck all these 2nd hand media homilies masquerading as genuine insight. Corbyn is a wet fart but for the first time in god knows how long values I hold dear are actually getting seeing the light of day. Time to actually get behind something instead of constantly bitching.

 

[butchersapron]

Fuck all these 2nd hand media homilies masquerading as genuine insight. Corbyn is a wet fart but for the first time in god knows how long values I hold dear are actually getting seeing the light of day. Time to actually get behind something instead of constantly bitching.

So what you doing then?

 

[Whagwan]

NEC report says that despite denials from party members and the fact that she wasn't even at the meeting Aaaargh was subjected to homophobic abuse. What the report into abuse allegations of Angela Eagle says

 

[butchersapron]

I don't know what happened but i wanted to say this earlier when this was first reported - it's perfectly possible to be the victim of homophobic abuse without being present.

 

[Whagwan]

TBH, it is more this that makes me call bullshit: Homophobic slurs against Angela Eagle in Wallasey? I've only experienced the opposite