Is this woman a transphobe?
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Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
Cock arse balls to that.
andysays
Love and solidarity
You just arrived, and you just happened to see this thread, which hadn't been posted on since November last year, so you just thought you'd add your "views" to it.
And you're just being you...
Athos
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As a community, we've pretty much reached a consensus that discussing it in the open fora isn't worth the grief.
JimW
支那暗杀团
Well, you'd have a much less successful thread history if we didn't.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
i wish this wasn't so
FabricLiveBaby!
Live Baby Fabric!
"Isn't worth the grief"
Agree with that.
Agree with that.
FabricLiveBaby!
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(yes, we are all still here.. tho I, and mostly others, can't be bothered to post anywhere on the boards as often)
Athos
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Me too. Because it's meant that we've abandoned respectful disagreement between people who are, by and large, politically sound. And, insofar as there's any public discourse, that void has been largely filled by extremists. But, if it was causing pain to (and the loss of) established members of this community - on all 'sides' of the debate - maybe it's for the best. Especially as, to be honest, we'd reached a position of going round in circles, and taking past one another.
FabricLiveBaby!
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A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Doubt that.
liquidindian
Hello
hmm was not sure where to put this when i saw it this might work
Unhinged ‘Transvestigators’ Think They’re the Only Cis People Left
Once you buy into their hateful conspiracy theory, you’ll turn against anyone
melmagazine.com
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
hmm ok i take it down
thought it was more funny that getting a fuck off
*wanders away from subject
FabricLiveBaby!
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bimble
floofy
oh good, is it post the most insane nasty old shit you've ever seen on a barrel-scraping trash website and have been saving on your desktop for just such an occasion time?
This is better check these out.
www.theguardian.com
This is better check these out.
Newly discovered deep sea species – in pictures
Exploration of the central Pacific Ocean’s Clarion-Clipperton Zone, a 5,000-metre abyssal plain that extends between Hawaii and Mexico, has brought to light megafauna previously unknown to science
www.theguardian.com
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Unhinged ‘Transvestigators’ Think They’re the Only Cis People Left
Once you buy into their hateful conspiracy theory, you’ll turn against anyone
Since just about everyone turns out to have been trans forever, you’d think they’d chill a bit.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Course ya did
I pulled it from subreddit 'I never thought leopards would eat MY face"
if i missed some of it context my bad, should not of wander into the thread without reading more of it
take from that what you will
8ball
Decolonise colons!
oh good, is it post the most insane nasty old shit you've ever seen on a barrel-scraping trash website and have been saving on your desktop for just such an occasion time?
This is better check these out.
Newly discovered deep sea species – in pictures
Exploration of the central Pacific Ocean’s Clarion-Clipperton Zone, a 5,000-metre abyssal plain that extends between Hawaii and Mexico, has brought to light megafauna previously unknown to science
Gummy squirrel.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
oh good, is it post the most insane nasty old shit you've ever seen on a barrel-scraping trash website and have been saving on your desktop for just such an occasion time?
This is better check these out.
Newly discovered deep sea species – in pictures
Exploration of the central Pacific Ocean’s Clarion-Clipperton Zone, a 5,000-metre abyssal plain that extends between Hawaii and Mexico, has brought to light megafauna previously unknown to science
I love the words abyssal and megafauna.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
References an ex poster who had unreasonable expectations on urban's tolerance for a well known Limerick bandLost me there.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Gotcha. That passed about 30,000 feet over my head.
stethoscope
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Truss as Equality minister under Johnson fills the EHRC with those sympathetic to the government, leading to a number of resignations in the EHRC. EHRC then 'recommends' to Badenoch changes to the Equality Act that effectively will render the Gender Recognition Act as useless.
Even if its full of barriers to actually implement any change, looks like people are getting what they want despite the chorus of 'we dont want to repeal the GRA, just asking questions..'. Thanks then.
Even if its full of barriers to actually implement any change, looks like people are getting what they want despite the chorus of 'we dont want to repeal the GRA, just asking questions..'. Thanks then.
From a policy perspective this is a total mess. It seems to be based on the EHRC's newly discovered belief that only trans people with a GRC benefit from Equality Act protections. But that's not what the act says, it's not what the courts have found, and it's not what the EHRC used to say until Falkner and the gang of terfs took over. I don't know whether they really believe this, or hope that for some reason any future case may fall on their side, but trans people without a GRC are already going round using single sex spaces so the proposed change will make little difference. And even if it does than it will only take one court verdict to throw things into chaos. It either needs a Supreme Court decision in their favour or total rewrite of the Equality Act to be in any way robust.
From a culture war and electioneering perspective however it makes perfect sense. It's probably not a vote winner but it's not a vote loser either. It keeps Labour on the backfoot, increases the risk of a internal Labour splits on the issue and allows loads of election airtime to be taken up with this instead of the fact people can't afford to heat their homes and food prices double every fortnight. It also pacifies the segment of commentariat who are obsessed with trans people who will now devote their energies to attacking any Labour politicians remotely supportive of trans rights. If it's a mess policy-wise it doesn't matter, in the unlikely event they win the next election they can worry about that then.
The biggest worry I think is they try bodge something through quickly with secondary legislation before the election. And that's going to be fucking horrible because there's no way they can really force businesses to discriminate against trans people without significant change to the law but the GCs will think that's the case. It's likely to result in trench warfare as GCs escalate attacks on any business or organisation which has trans inclusive policies, whilst trans people attack those that don't (which I suspect won't be many because who needs the hassle of forcing staff to guess someone's chromosones).
One option is businesses where possible just do away with changing rooms and public toilets when they aren't legally obliged to provide them. Another is to make everything gender neutral, which may well be the most robust legal position under any bodged law change. More worrying though is it's also likely to vastly increase abuse of gender nonconforming people in single sex spaces as every fucking terf turns into a gender cop and starts harrassing anyone they think doesn't look womanly enough to be in the women's toilets. And there's been plenty of gender critical and far right men recently threatening violence with this in mind.
Also should add that whilst these proposed changes are aimed at trans woman they will prove equally if not more devastating for trans men. Under what's proposed by EHRC if a business decides to exclude trans women from women's spaces then they will be pretty legally vulnerable if they don't also exclude trans men from men's spaces. Otherwise they may risk a sex discrimination claim, somewhat ironically from a trans woman on the basis she is a man who is being treated differently from a woman (who's actually a trans man). Sex discrimination cuts both ways in law and remove the proportionate and legitimate clause and instead permit a blanket ban then it will have to apply equally to both trans women and trans men.
So trans men will have to use women's toilets where they are likely to face harrassment and abuse and trans woman will have to use men's toilets where they will face the risk of sexual assault and violence. The end result if widely adopted will be the elimination of trans people's access to large parts of social and civic society - something we all fucking told you was the aim of the gender critical movement. And it will not end there, it will escalate as we are seeing in the US.
So trans men will have to use women's toilets where they are likely to face harrassment and abuse and trans woman will have to use men's toilets where they will face the risk of sexual assault and violence. The end result if widely adopted will be the elimination of trans people's access to large parts of social and civic society - something we all fucking told you was the aim of the gender critical movement. And it will not end there, it will escalate as we are seeing in the US.
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