Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?

[VivaE]

Good and long may it continue. Chickens coming home to roost, Trump's people now getting a sour taste of what they've enabled. I couldn't be happier for them.

The sources said Musk’s near-constant presence at Mar-a-Lago in the week since Election Day had begun to wear on people who’ve been in Trump’s inner circle longer than he has and who see him as overstepping his role in the transition. The sources spoke on condition of anonymity because they’re not authorized to speak publicly.

“He’s behaving as if he’s a co-president and making sure everyone knows it,” one of the people said.

“And he’s sure taking lots of credit for the president’s victory. Bragging about America PAC and X to anyone who will listen. He’s trying to make President Trump feel indebted to him. And the president is indebted to no one,” this person added.

Elon Musk may already be overstaying his welcome in Trump's orbit

Musk has been a near-constant presence at Mar-a-Lago, where he has sat in on important meetings and calls.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[two sheds]

 

[BigMoaner]

Good and long may it continue. Chickens coming home to roost, Trump's people now getting a sour taste of what they've enabled. I couldn't be happier for them.

Elon Musk may already be overstaying his welcome in Trump's orbit

Musk has been a near-constant presence at Mar-a-Lago, where he has sat in on important meetings and calls.

www.nbcnews.com

Not even elected yet. Any slight irrritation invoked in trump and he’ll be flicked away like an ant

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Odd thing with Musk and all the weirdo Trump appointments; none seem to remember or care for the fate of so many of his people last time round. So many did actual prison time, others like Giuliani lost everything, his whole life's work, gone, just like that, cos he did Trump's bidding. And Trump gave zero fucks for any of these people. Will be funny to see a treason charge getting Musk 50 years to life at some point...

 

[Lord Camomile]

He is soooo cool

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I mean, it efficiently says "I'm a cunt", but beyond than that he remains excessively tedious.

 

[NoXion]

Odd thing with Musk and all the weirdo Trump appointments; none seem to remember or care for the fate of so many of his people last time round. So many did actual prison time, others like Giuliani lost everything, his whole life's work, gone, just like that, cos he did Trump's bidding. And Trump gave zero fucks for any of these people. Will be funny to see a treason charge getting Musk 50 years to life at some point...

I think the people who are still willing to work with or for Trump, even after all the people who've very publicly come a cropper after throwing their lot in with the orange turd, each have a severe case of Main Character Syndrome. "Nothing too bad will happen to me, I'm really special". That or they are ignorant to the point of delusion. I honestly have a hard time understanding people like that, it's as if they live in a different mental world entirely.

 

[belboid]

. So many did actual prison time, others like Giuliani lost everything, his whole life's work, gone, just like that, cos he did Trump's bidding.

has he? I don’t think he’s living in a bedsit in queens.

His reputation is massively tarnished, but he was always a shyster lawyer, it was almost his selling point.

 

[ska invita]

What even is government efficiency? What does it look like?
In my company if me and a staff member must travel to Bora Bora for two weeks to source a pack of biros, yeah, that's inefficient.
What does it look like to an agency that provides social care for vulnerable children?

this is what he did when took over Twitter so he has experience
"Elon Musk says he’s cut about 80% of Twitter’s staff"

its anarchocapitalism basically, thats core to a big part of the techbro philosophy...though as to what bits they will destroy and to what scale we'll have to see
for example Vivek is talking about shutting down the FBI completely! https://archive.ph/9jQuo
its a potentially revolutionary moment in the US if they actually carry through half the things they dream of
Shutting down the CIA would be interesting though, but I expect the CIA is a bit of the state apparatus they are quite keen on

Key bit in that Telegpraph link "in the case of the FBI he wanted to re-allocate part of its $11.4 billion budget to the Secret Service and Defence Intelligence Agency."

 

[krtek a houby]

has he? I don’t think he’s living in a bedsit in queens.

His reputation is massively tarnished, but he was always a shyster lawyer, it was almost his selling point.

His 9/11 stature briefly made him a "hero", of sorts - beyond criticism.

 

[krtek a houby]

this is what he did when took over Twitter so he has experience
"Elon Musk says he’s cut about 80% of Twitter’s staff"

its anarchocapitalism basically, thats core to a big part of the techbro philosophy...though as to what bits they will destroy and to what scale we'll have to see
for example Vivek is talking about shutting down the FBI completely! https://archive.ph/9jQuo
its a potentially revolutionary moment in the US if they actually carry through half the things they dream of
Shutting down the CIA would be interesting though, but I expect the CIA is a bit of the state apparatus they are quite keen on

Shutting down the FBI and CIA woul be interesting.

But just try and suggest defunding the cops and people lose their minds...

 

[NoXion]

Shutting down the FBI and CIA woul be interesting.

But just try and suggest defunding the cops and people lose their minds...

Which is funny because the FBI are cops. Just not the brown-shirted corrupt local ones that the Republicans like.