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Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?

Boris Sprinkler said:
And we are to believe this utter tool is taking anything to mars in cgi spaceships.
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I wonder if there’s a tipping point where the big brains who work for him or potential staff start (or have started) to refuse on the basis of “who he is”. That would be another massive nail in the coffin, with the brains going to competitors.
Boris Sprinkler said:
And we are to believe this utter tool is taking anything to mars in cgi spaceships.
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Why is he putting on that accent and doing those other things?
 
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I'd put money on that this fuckspanner will be running for Prez one day (if he doesn't crash and burn before then). It's the next logical step for the ego.
 
tim said:
I used to think that Branston was an overrated braggart, but Musk has his own space programme his overrated motor cars, his giant solar powered shed and now has visions of drilling tunnels at minimal cost and great speed under Los Angeles. Investors seem to love him and throw money at his projects. I think it will all end in tears.

Ted 2017: Elon Musk's vision for underground road system - BBC News
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The Chinese are going to fuck Tesla up big time and it's already happening.
 
people project on him all the ideals of business creativity and "improvement" and breaking down walls and business acumen when it's really a Sad Dad in a basement getting angry over LGTBQ tweets.

the world is bonkers.
 
BigMoaner said:
still can't quite work out how someone who posts on twitter literally all day can run companies the size of which he owns.

it's almost like he's just some lucky investor, isn't it, who takes all the credit for shifting a few quid around?
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That’s it, once you have money it’s easier to make more money.
 
As a case in point look at cryptocurrency ledgers and notice how all money trickles upwards.
That is the point of crypto, to show how rigged the system is.
 
BigMoaner said:
still can't quite work out how someone who posts on twitter literally all day can run companies the size of which he owns.
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Short answer is he doesn't. Early on he wasn't a social media victim and did a lot more tech bro work himself, so clever tech people gravitated to him knowing he was surrounded by other clever tech people. Now he doesn't need to and can just piss about in what amounts to a giant play pen.
 
Rob Ray said:
Short answer is he doesn't. Early on he wasn't a social media victim and did a lot more tech bro work himself, so clever tech people gravitated to him knowing he was surrounded by other clever tech people. Now he doesn't need to and can just piss about in what amounts to a giant play pen.
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play pen i like. like in nurserys and play rooms you have images and stikers on the wall of winnie hte poo, or cinderella, and mobiles hanging from the ceiling, in musk's play pen the images on the wall are trans people, SJWs, Alpha Males like Rogan, Cowboys in general etc. his play ground is Baudrillard's Hyper Real where the images are images of images of images ad infinitum pummelled into his brain because he just can;t put the damn phone down.
 
a decent man, no matter what their politics, would be more transparent about the role in the company. they could quite easily say, especially after the 10 hours or so on fucking rogan, "look, i am an overseer - i make decisions but most of what you see through my companies is done and decided by others, i just guide them here and there" or something. or you go the dempsey route and just don't say much at all and just shut the fuck up and let the companies "speak for themselves".

but he doesn't. the clown gets up on stage for all the other clowns to blindly applaud.
 
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BigMoaner said:
a decent man, no matter what their politics, would be more transparent about the role in the company. they could quite easily say, especially after the 10 hours or so on fucking rogan, "look, i am an overseer - i make decisions but most of what you see through my companies is done and decided by others, i just guide them here and there" or something. or you go the dempsey route and just don't say much at all and just shut the fuck up and let the companies "speak for themselves".

but he doesn't. the clown gets up on stage for all the other clowns to blindly applaud.
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You don’t get to be the richest man in the world by giving others credit, or a decent human being
 
LDC said:
I've just watched that and, as well as probably fucking my Youtube algorithm, it is in equal parts absolutely terrifying and completely batshit.

I've got a really deeply depressing and horrible feeling that Trump is going to win and Musk is going to end up as one of his powerful 'fixers'.
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the phony accent, teh awkwardness, they guy has no charisma at all. nothing that pulls you in. it's the sort of "performance" that if you did down the pub with your mates, you would be be ribbed and have the piss ripped out of you for months.

so how then has he got the power and clout that he does have? this is the day and age and where nothing really sticks. you can do what you want and still the roller coaster will ride on and on. see also brand, trump, etc
 
Chz said:
This is where it gets complicated. The world needed SpaceX. Having satellite launches be pretty much only in the realm of national governments was a bad thing, long term. It's not like they organised themselves to avoid space junk, it was a fucking Wild West anyhow so reducing launch costs and opening it to more business could only be a good thing.
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Since when has leaving things to corporate interests and the above-the-state psychobillionaire free market ever been "only a good thing".
No we don't "need" SpaceX. We do need to stop climate change and environmental collapse before its too late.

NoXion said:
No billionaire exists through merit.
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Careful now, those Swifties can get nasty
 
ska invita said:
Since when has leaving things to corporate interests and the above-the-state psychobillionaire free market ever been "only a good thing".
No we don't "need" SpaceX. We do need to stop climate change and environmental collapse before its too late.
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exactly. there are about 10000 otehr things to priortise than staggering about on another planet for ten minutes
 
Just in case anyone missed the font he's chosen for his new 'dark gothic MAGA' hat.

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I'm not even sure you can call the choices dog whistle at this point - there's no subtlety.
 
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