Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?
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two sheds
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Facebook cofounder accuses Tesla of being the next 'Enron'
Asana founder Dustin Moskovitz called Tesla the next "Enron" and speculated that people "are going to jail at the end."
www.businessinsider.com
Have to admit, Musk does come back with some clever replies:
Not this time though, obviously.
Don't know either way but I suppose poor range and killing people are important factors for share price.
krtek a houby
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Another lament for the golden age of twitter
www.theguardian.com
He really pissed all over it, didn't he?
The demise of Twitter: How a ‘utopian vision’ for social media became a ‘toxic mess’
In the early days it was seen as a place for ‘genuine public discourse’, but users have fled since Elon Musk took over. What went wrong?
He really pissed all over it, didn't he?
Raheem
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krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
The latter. He's like a petulant and vindictive child.
teqniq
DisMembered
I'll put this here because the piece is about tech billionaires who are Musk-adjacent. Indeed, according to the article, Musk appears to be a fan of the primary figure the article features, Balaji Srinivasan who is advocating for San Fansisco to be 'ethnically cleansed'. At the end of the day what he seems to be advocating is a kind if tech neo-fascisim and he is taken seriously by similarly wealthy peers:
newrepublic.com
The Tech Baron Seeking to Purge San Francisco of “Blues”
If Balaji Srinivasan is any guide, then the Silicon Valley plutocrats are definitely not OK.
newrepublic.com
Storm Fox
Trying the find the next noun to verb
I'll put this here because the piece is about tech billionaires who are Musk-adjacent. Indeed, according to the article, Musk appears to be a fan of the primary figure the article features, Balaji Srinivasan who is advocating for San Fansisco to be 'ethnically cleansed'. At the end of the day what he seems to be advocating is a kind if tech neo-fascisim and he is taken seriously by similarly wealthy peers:
The Tech Baron Seeking to Purge San Francisco of “Blues”
If Balaji Srinivasan is any guide, then the Silicon Valley plutocrats are definitely not OK.
Srinivasan ideas read like a 15-year-old's bad Ayn Rand dystopia on Fanfiction.net, and like all Libertarians, he forgets about all the people in service industries.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Android slang for 'brutally annihilate the hubristic flesh-bag'
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
An entertaining and telling thread:
And the replies are a perfect illustration of why what he wrote is correct
A cascade of blue ticks, the vast majority (based on the random sample I checked) accounts created in the past 5 years, the majority in the last 1-2 years. Just seems bonkers that those who seem so sure of ‘how things were back then’ are the ones with the least direct experience of it.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
God he’s peak insufferable reckless tech bro isn’t he. To be honest I can't even begin to work out Silicon Valley, as soon as I try and grasp something to hold onto, I get conflicting thoughts. I know this type though - they simply believe that mankind should be propelled forward cosntantly by tech, and they are probably right - kind of feudual lords of Neoliberalism. I don't think people sometimes realise how important these folk are to the way we live now, compared to say 30 years ago, and that our futures are mainly in these types hands. We are right in the middle of the tech revolution and it will i think dwarf the industrial revolution. At least that had a clearish scope in which mankind could kind of settle around and work out and contextualise - tech however is constantly changing, as soon as its one thing, its another almost immediately. he sounds a right cunt though, tbh.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Of course they do. Rees-Mogg was recently seen riding in a horseless carriage.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
Raheem
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Ed Balls
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gosub
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Tesla Rewards Dedicated Worker Who Showered at Factory and Slept in His Car by Firing Him
A Tesla employee who slept inside his car and made microwave meals instead of going home got laid off last month from the car company.
futurism.com
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Tesla Rewards Dedicated Worker Who Showered at Factory and Slept in His Car by Firing Him
A Tesla employee who slept inside his car and made microwave meals instead of going home got laid off last month from the car company.
From what I've heard about how toxic and demanding workplace culture can be in the US, I seriously don't understand why anyone over there puts in any more effort than what is contractually laid out. In countries like Japan or France I can at least understand why someone would go the extra mile, since they've generally got better job security over there. But if you kiss your boss's ass in the US, all you end up doing is degrading yourself before being let go.
One well-established consequence of higher levels of inequality and social domination in society is that individuals in subordinate classes are more likely (rather than less likely) to valorise the individuals and values of the dominant class. There’s a complex mix of reasons for this, including (but not limited to) who gets to set the hegemonic moral framework, the troubled identity of poverty and the ability of the dominant class to mythologise the idea of social mobility, thus undermining class solidarity. So, unfortunately, it isn’t actually surprising at all that the highly downtrodden of the US are less likely to object to the system than the less downtrodden of France. You might even say that the lack of objection is part of the very process that reproduces the inequality.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I'm not sure that's the whole story. Japan is quite a stratified/hierarchical (right word?) society and workers over there don't seem quite as militant as those in France, hence why I mentioned it as an example.
Japan has lower inequality than the average OECD country, and much lower perceptions regarding the importance of parental status than average.
I can’t speak to how Japanese workers culturally react to unreasonable demands from their boss, though. And, of course, there’s tonnes more to that than just inequality levels alone — of course there is. The point is merely that it doesn’t work like “the less protection you have, the more likely you are to be militant”. Psychologically and socially, that relationship tends to go the other way.
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
Yes, having worked for a huge Japanese company it’s a very paternalistic relationship, with working for one form of the company for your entire career still very likely, and company social events eg picnics and supporting sports teams taking up a lot of life outside the office too.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
If you don't engage with post office hours drinks and suchlike, that is frowned on. For all the staff. The amount of young foreigners I've seen over the years looking like they'd rather be anywhere else is depressing.
The whole set up from school to college to the workplace feels regimented.
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