Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?
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ATOMIC SUPLEX
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I've still got a press VHS of it that came in a massive box. It's definitely not great, but during a period where I was a film reviewer and was watching a couple of new films every day, it didn't stand out as the worst film ever made. It didn't stand out at all. I don't remember much about it, but I do remember it getting an absolute panning much later on that I am not sure it truly deserved. (there was zero fanfare for it's release and at a time when I was usually watching new films on DVD or cinema press screenings it was noticeable that it was just a VHS bundled in the post with no write up or anything). Zero effort. . . but yeah, don't take that as my endorsement of the film, it's just not 'the worst film ever made'.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Interesting he suggests "a battle to the death".
Wonder how that's gonna play out & if and when the deaths and battles start to occur, will he take responsibility for his rhetoric?
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
He's referring to trans kids. It's now a standard right-wing talking point to talk as if gender-affirming care for minors always involves ideologically-motivated bottom surgery. It's a disgusting lie but when has that ever stopped them?
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
That whole set of points has been standard "we're not bigots honest" fare for white supremacists for years.
- Secure borders (send em all back)
- Safe and clean cities (we need a fascist strongman to impose order on the povvos and ethnics)
- don't bankrupt America (not specific to fash but obv standard 'cut services to povvos' rich twattery)
- Racism against any race is wrong (complaining about or trying to resolve systemic/my racism makes you the racist)
- No sterilisation below are of consent (modern excursion of trans panic)
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Judge dismisses ‘vapid’ Elon Musk lawsuit against group that cataloged racist content on X
Center for Countering Digital Hate has chronicled rise of racist, antisemitic and extremist on X since Musk’s acquisition
A fearless defender of free speech
. I particularly liked:
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Musk's Twitter sold user data to governments: Elon Musk Fought Government Surveillance — While Profiting Off Government Surveillance (archive link)
Didn't we have some users earlier claiming that Musk was somehow fighting the "Deep State"? Well it turns out that was a load of absolute bollocks! Musk is a liar and a hypocrite.
Didn't we have some users earlier claiming that Musk was somehow fighting the "Deep State"? Well it turns out that was a load of absolute bollocks! Musk is a liar and a hypocrite.
Storm Fox
Trying the find the next noun to verb
Vatican. 
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Bit of data on how the great visionary's strategy is playing out:
www.theguardian.com
www.nbcnews.com
Twitter usage in US ‘fallen by a fifth’ since Elon Musk’s takeover
App users for social media site, rebranded as X, down by 23% since November 2022 according to Sensor Tower
Fewer people are using Elon Musk’s X as the platform struggles to attract and keep users, according to analysts
X usage has declined as downloads of Threads have surged in recent weeks.
www.nbcnews.com
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Fidelity cuts value of X stake, implying 73% decline in former Twitter since Elon Musk's takeover
Fidelity helped Elon Musk with his Twitter takeover, earning a stake in X that's become increasingly less valuable.
toffee
New Member
Some say that Tesla is declining because of Musk's reputation.
futurism.com
Buyers Are Avoiding Teslas Because Elon Musk Has Become So Toxic
According to a recent survey, Tesla's reputation is plunging, which could be due to Musk's off-putting and problematic behavior.
futurism.com
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
I guess that's what you might call a self-driving prophecy
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I reckon his whole world is going to collapse around him. He might survive the fall of xTwatter but once the Tesla bubble bursts he's done for.
Twitter had had its day before he bought it. It was the most stupid thing he ever did. And I think* the novelty is about to wear off Tesla cars, because there's only so much shit customers will put up with.
*Might be wrong. Apple are still going.
Twitter had had its day before he bought it. It was the most stupid thing he ever did. And I think* the novelty is about to wear off Tesla cars, because there's only so much shit customers will put up with.
*Might be wrong. Apple are still going.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Storm Fox
Trying the find the next noun to verb
I did a quick Google search for this, and the only place I can find this story is Musk fluffer sites, where they just state how amazing the CT is for not crumpling, but I cannot find the broken legs referenced. Unfortunately, I cannot find this story at all from a reputable source. As much as I think Musk is an awful person, this may be a Musk hater making things up.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Might be. It is true though isn't it that crumple zones are designed in to modern cars in order to absorb the force of a collision rather than transferring it to the occupant. So whatever has happened to the drivers in this specific incident it is true to say it not having crumpled is hardly some sort of ringing endorsement.
Storm Fox
Trying the find the next noun to verb
I agree. I expect the CT occupants had a rough time.
Quite possibly, my Googling failed and there is a story about them breaking legs
BigTom
Well-Known Member
Apple is a bad comparison, their products might be overpriced and shitty in many ways with walled garden ecosystems but they are well built products with great UX/UI design whereas Teslas are poorly built pieces of shit that had first mover advantage and great marketing, and are only now facing real competition - Apple always had that competition from other computer and phone manufacturers.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
light but fairly good article. Jordan Peterson: The Representation of Why You Should Not Use Twitter
on similar track, without wanting to sound pretentious by bringing in someone as obscure as heidegger in terms of comprehensibility, i like what heidegger says about the "They" - i.e the individual is the social, or in another way: the individual slips into the social with every interaction with other human beings. You are obsorbed into the They, whether you like it or not. The They is one thing, operating all at once, with no seperate atomised "selves". Him being full of miserable conservatism saw the "They" mainly in negative terms (which is where I disagree with him). He says: "The They prescribes what can and may be ventured., it keeps watch over everything exceptional. Every kind of supremacy gets silently suppressed. Overnight, everythign that is original gets glossed over as somethign well-known. Everything gained by a struggle becomes just something to be manipulated. Every mystery loses its force. Teh averageness reveals an essential tendancy of Being.: the 'levelling down of all possibilities of Being."
You can actually read that outside of his conservatism and i like it by itself, and think it's true in many situations (Work is normally the greatest example). I think what he is saying here is why it actually makes me shudder a little to imagine Bob Dylan one day signing up and then spending his remaining years tweeting.
you could argue that twitter is like the They on steriods, or shot through with nicotine or crack. The person is sucked into others' worlds and they become, as Martin suggests, indisidinguisable as they become part of the one absoloute process. Oh but that's great, it's so democratic and itneresting to see the interior lives of others . Is it?
anyway, i read that quote today and it made me think of twitter.
on similar track, without wanting to sound pretentious by bringing in someone as obscure as heidegger in terms of comprehensibility, i like what heidegger says about the "They" - i.e the individual is the social, or in another way: the individual slips into the social with every interaction with other human beings. You are obsorbed into the They, whether you like it or not. The They is one thing, operating all at once, with no seperate atomised "selves". Him being full of miserable conservatism saw the "They" mainly in negative terms (which is where I disagree with him). He says: "The They prescribes what can and may be ventured., it keeps watch over everything exceptional. Every kind of supremacy gets silently suppressed. Overnight, everythign that is original gets glossed over as somethign well-known. Everything gained by a struggle becomes just something to be manipulated. Every mystery loses its force. Teh averageness reveals an essential tendancy of Being.: the 'levelling down of all possibilities of Being."
You can actually read that outside of his conservatism and i like it by itself, and think it's true in many situations (Work is normally the greatest example). I think what he is saying here is why it actually makes me shudder a little to imagine Bob Dylan one day signing up and then spending his remaining years tweeting.
you could argue that twitter is like the They on steriods, or shot through with nicotine or crack. The person is sucked into others' worlds and they become, as Martin suggests, indisidinguisable as they become part of the one absoloute process. Oh but that's great, it's so democratic and itneresting to see the interior lives of others . Is it?
anyway, i read that quote today and it made me think of twitter.
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BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
another one of his describing the They (and thinking about twitter in light of it):
"....in the practical public environment, in utlizing public means of transport and in making information services as the newspaper, every Other is like the next. One's own Being dissolves completely into the kind of being of 'the Others'."
This is why musk would probably be 10x more interesting a subject if he actually wasn't on the platform he bought. He's a living meme, somewhat.
"....in the practical public environment, in utlizing public means of transport and in making information services as the newspaper, every Other is like the next. One's own Being dissolves completely into the kind of being of 'the Others'."
This is why musk would probably be 10x more interesting a subject if he actually wasn't on the platform he bought. He's a living meme, somewhat.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Without knowing how the collision occurred, you can't guess at anything, and it's impossible from that photo to determine what happened. If the car ran into the wheel of the CT, that would absolutely explain the lack of damage, but we don't know.
It's just a bullshit story.
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