Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?

[BigMoaner]

i've finally lost it.

 

[DotCommunist]

whatsapp is for drug dealing because of the encryption, and thats also why politicians shouldn't be using it to do their shenanigans but far from banning themselves from it they decided to ask whatsapp to give them a backdoor (to snoop on the multitudes)to which the answer was: No.

 

[NoXion]

Whatsapp definitely has its fair share of conspiracy groups and other crackpots, but they don't get as much traction because its such a closed platform. It's not like Facebook where the crap gets spread about by the algorithm, you have to be invited in by another human being.

 

[belboid]

Older people dont use discord at all. For relatively mainstream, but not massive, causes/issues/localities it (WhatsApp) is still a major source of info. Positively nutty groups gravitate towards telegram.

 

[PTK]

Why are there so many of these platforms?
People must waste much time checking them all.

 

[ska invita]

Why are there so many of these platforms?
People must waste much time checking them all.

They have different purposes and tones of content

 

[PTK]

They have different purposes and tones of content

Imagine.
You atttend a discussion group. You receive emails from the group informing you of its meetings. There is a Facebook page for the group too, but you do not use Facebook. You turn up for one of the meetings, one afternoon, and there is nobody there. You email the organiser to complain. The organiser tells you that the cancellation was announced on a platform you had barely heard of, let alone have an account on. Why do people do things like this?

 

[mwgdrwg]

I only have Signal and forced my children and best friend to use it

 

[mwgdrwg]

I have no idea what is happening locally or within the wider family or circle of friends. It's very pleasant.

 

[ska invita]

Signal doesnt do notifications so I never know when someone has messaged me. Maybe thats part of the appeal

I have no idea what is happening locally or within the wider family or circle of friends. It's very pleasant.

nothing much im sure

 

[JimW]

Sky's got a story today about WhatsApp groups where children share pics of the wildlife they kill with their catapults. Bit of torture too.

 

[NoXion]

Imagine.
You atttend a discussion group. You receive emails from the group informing you of its meetings. There is a Facebook page for the group too, but you do not use Facebook. You turn up for one of the meetings, one afternoon, and there is nobody there. You email the organiser to complain. The organiser tells you that the cancellation was announced on a platform you had barely heard of, let alone have an account on. Why do people do things like this?

Has this ever actually happened? Why wouldn't they also email news of the cancellation?

 

[teqniq]

Signal doesnt do notifications so I never know when someone has messaged me. Maybe thats part of the appeal

nothing much im sure

It does, maybe you disabled it in notifications.

 

[belboid]

Has this ever actually happened? Why wouldn't they also email news of the cancellation?

when I went to see Patti Smith, the ticket said 8pm doors. They changed it to 7pm and only announced it on a local forum, not even their own (admittedly, ill-used) forum, Fb page or email list. I missed the first hour of her, the fuckers.

 

[Lurdan]

Has this ever actually happened? Why wouldn't they also email news of the cancellation?

Perhaps they're 'telling' you something.

 

[Dogsauce]

WhatsApp was used to get Bolsanaro elected in a radio using various fake news and scare stories, and had also been used similarly by the Republican Party in Florida, particularly amongst Spanish speaking communities. Because it’s closed groups, disinformation can’t be called out or challenged, it just builds a bubble of anger.

I think after some of the controversy around the Brazil election they did take some measures, possibly limits on the size of groups?

 

[PTK]

Has this ever actually happened? Why wouldn't they also email news of the cancellation?

This happened to me, and I have no idea why they did not email news of the cancellation.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Sky's got a story today about WhatsApp groups where children share pics of the wildlife they kill with their catapults. Bit of torture too.

Bloody Bash Street Kids

 

[Yossarian]

Was really hoping that fucker's Starship rocket would blow up on the launch pad today

 

[editor]

Was really hoping that fucker's Starship rocket would blow up on the launch pad today

He's a complete shithead but the Starship is the most exciting thing to happen in space travel for decades.
So it's a bit like cheering on your football team when it's owned by a horrible consortium.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Sky's got a story today about WhatsApp groups where children share pics of the wildlife they kill with their catapults. Bit of torture too.

They should leave the cow flinging to professional comedians.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

In the latest bit of proof that Elon Musk is really a 10-year-old, he managed to get into a controversy with Don Lemon, ex-CNN anchor. Lemon was supposed to host a show on X, and his first interview was with Elon. He asked Elon about free speech and far-right wing content. If Elon had a bit of sense, he could have answered that in a way that would have enhanced his rep. Instead, he threw a hissy fit and dumped Don Lemon off the payroll:

We'll have to wait until Monday to see how "tense" the sit down was between tech entrepreneur Elon Musk and former CNN host Don Lemon—when the latter posts the video interview of Musk on YouTube, while it will also be available as a podcast. However, what is already known is that X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter, pulled its partnership deal with Lemon after Musk sat down for the interview.

On Wednesday, Musk's social network platform announced via a tweet, "X is a platform that champions free speech, and we’re proud to provide an open environment for diverse voices and perspectives. The Don Lemon Show is welcome to publish its content on X, without censorship, as we believe in providing a platform for creators to scale their work and connect with new communities. However, like any enterprise, we reserve the right to make decisions about our business partnerships, and after careful consideration, X decided not to enter into a commercial partnership with the show."

Elon Musk Is No Speech Champion After Canceling Deal With Don Lemon

X could be the bigger loser, especially as the interview will still air on a competing platform.

www.forbes.com

From the outside, this looked like a scheme Donald Trump would come up with the keep from paying for content. Or, maybe he really is that immature.

 

[Orang Utan]

He's a complete shithead but the Starship is the most exciting thing to happen in space travel for decades.
So it's a bit like cheering on your football team when it's owned by a horrible consortium.

Except you should be hoping it explodes on launch. We need to leave space alone. We’ve proved we can’t even be trusted with our own planet.

 

[editor]

Except you should be hoping it explodes on launch. We need to leave space alone. We’ve proved we can’t even be trusted with our own planet.

Couldn't disagree more. The only reason you're alive is because of science and people pushing boundaries and exploring the unknown.

 

[BigMoaner]

, He's a complete shithead but the Starship is the most exciting thing to happen in space travel for decades.
So it's a bit like cheering on your football team when it's owned by a horrible consortium.

Yes, similar with his cars, the more and better electric cara the better etc. but then I suspect that musk has almost nothing to do with any of the things he produces anyway, preoccupied instead by his need to win twitter, etc.

 

[teuchter]

more and better electric cara the better

Not really.

 

[Orang Utan]

Couldn't disagree more. The only reason you're alive is because of science and people pushing boundaries and exploring the unknown.

I understand the scientific imperative to explore and discover, but it’s very concerning that the likes of Musk are driving these enterprises, as their only motives are profit and exploitation.

 

[NoXion]

Except you should be hoping it explodes on launch. We need to leave space alone. We’ve proved we can’t even be trusted with our own planet.

Misanthropic garbage. Humans have always altered the environments they form a part of, just like any other successful organism. "Harmony" is a myth. The "oh noes we trashed the biosphere" argument against the exploration and settlement of space makes even less sense when one considers that there aren't even any ecosystems on places like the Moon and Mars that we could impact. If anything the presence of humans on previously lifeless worlds would increase the universe's sum total of ecology, not reduce it.

 

[2hats]

there aren't even any ecosystems on places like the Moon and Mars that we could impact

I wouldn't be quite so certain about the red planet, just yet.

 

[Smangus]

Couldn't disagree more. The only reason you're alive is because of science and people pushing boundaries and exploring the unknown.

I thought it was because my parents succumbed to one of the most primeval and basic instincts of the animal kingdom. Spose they did push certain boundaries mind.