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Is Brexit actually going to happen?
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And the guardian, the independent, the standard, the metro. Who funds the new european. How do you people believe capital wanted brexit, the EU is literally a trade bloc
cupid_stunt
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I have no idea on the first point, as I don't get involved in Facebook, the odd occasion I end-up looking on there I've never seen any ads, as I use an ad-blocker.
On the second point, I strongly believe online political advertising during campaigns should be banned, as per with radio & TV.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
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The Sun and the Mail (mass circulation far right propaganda sheets) as well as the Express and Telegraph have been feeding a nationalist, anti-foreigner, anti-European narrative based on British exceptionalism for decades. Such a mindset is now pretty much normalised. The woolly Guardian, Independent, etc meanwhile could never compete with that.
Raheem
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You took those photos yesterday. Nobody's fooled.
Artaxerxes
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It's as irrelevant as it makes itself. For instance by abdicating any political agency and instead chucking itself in with liberals as a perceived least worst option. Which makes it even less relevant. Repeat.
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Due to the ongoing criminal investigation into Brexit funding the particulars are currently not readily available im afraid. But it`s bloody obvious .
I am not just talking about the leave campaign parties . Include all dodgy funding and promotion of rightwing facefuck muppet groups as well . The alt-right in the UK as a whole.
Wealthy US donors gave millions to rightwing UK groups
Revelations raise questions about influence of foreign funding on British politics
Of course funding is only half the issue as Cambridge Anylitica unleashed a weaponised properganda system far more effective than anything used before, which is what i am trying to discuss .
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Yossarian
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We get such beautiful clear skies now that all industry has collapsed, the pollution is one thing I won't miss. Do you remember when planes used to cross the sky sometimes, leaving little trail behind them? Crazy people said the government was spraying mind-control chemicals.
Three eggs in a single breakfast seems extravagant, but it's important to keep up morale, even in these early days - they say the powdered ones are just as nutritious anyway, so it's really just a matter of aesthetics.
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True but the not wanting to be associated with anyone associated with virtue signal did nothing but alienate those leavers sympatic to fuck xenophobia..for whom leaving EU was about entirely other thibg. They are probably the ones who sit quietly in the pub when Brexit comes up...As the debate crystallized around the strawmen of the worst kind of argument of what it all means
gosub
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Contrails still stick cos a checkerboard is more about still air. Cloud seeding using silver nitrate is a real but expensive thing -tgey used it to protect Moscow from Chernobyl.
But if there is any chemical in the usual contrail it's residual pareafin from the jet fuel or glycol and they've com up with a more devious way of getting that into local air most vape juice is aircraft deicer
krtek a houby
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Oh, for sure. Propaganda played no part in the outcome. Both sides were completely honest. Neither needed propaganda because such a tool has never worked in the history of mankind, ever.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
I guess it's bloody obvious if you pluck out one set of figures from The Independent published 24/4/17, that a total of £24.1m was given to Leave campaigns in the five months before the referendum, but fails to explain where the figure came from, nor goes into details on what was spent & when. It mentions a 5 month period, but the rules on spending only covers the campaign period of 10 weeks, plus the article fails to mention how much was given to the remain campaigns in those five months, so no comparison can be made, making it both bias and pointless.
Here's a couple of more honest & balanced links, showing a comparison between the leave & remain campaign groups:
1 - Rival Remain and Leave campaigners in the EU referendum raised £15.6m in the ten weeks to 21 April, according to the Electoral Commission. The official campaign for Britain to stay in the EU - Britain Stronger in Europe - raised £6.9m - more than twice as much as Vote Leave's £2.8m. But the sum raised by all registered leave campaigners was £8.2m - higher than the remain campaigners' £7.5m. (source BBC)
2 - At the Electoral Commission’s last count of donations, more than £7,500 (the ones that have to be declared)*, groups arguing for a leave vote had raised £12.1m, while £9m had been given to those backing remain. (source The Guardian) * This bit is slightly misleading, all donations have to be declared, but only those over £7.5k require the source to be declared.
Now you maybe thinking that proves leave spent more than remain, but it doesn't, because it's donations, not what was spent during the campaign period. In addition there are other groups & individuals that funded the campaigns, for example, political parties (UKIP & DUP) spent almost £1.5m on leave, whilst Labour, LidDems, SNP, PC & Greens spent over £7m on remain.
- Remain: £19,309,588 (excluding government spending of over £9m)
- Leave: £13,332,569
Campaign spending at the EU referendum
View data about campaign spending at the EU referendum.
I am not just talking about the leave campaign parties . Include all dodgy funding and promotion of rightwing facefuck muppet groups as well . The alt-right in the UK as a whole.
Wealthy US donors gave millions to rightwing UK groups
Revelations raise questions about influence of foreign funding on British politicswww.theguardian.com
This is a straw man argument, it has no relevance to the referendum, it mentions almost £3m was donated to right wing think-tanks during a 5 year period, it was published almost three & half years after the fucking referendum, meaning much of it was donated after the referendum, it also makes no claims that any of this money was spent on the campaign. In the case of the donation to the Adam Smith Institute, it was to make a film about Magna Carta and to fund scholarships. 0/10
I agree that the involvement of Cambridge Analytica's tactics was dodgy, hence Facebook getting the maximum fine at the time, £500k, for allowing them access to data. But, you are over egging any impact they may have had, it's widely reported that they had access to data for around a million UK Facebook users, the odds are about half of those planned to vote leave anyway. The big question is how many of the other half million decided to vote leave as a result of targeting by Cambridge Analytica? Frankly it doesn't matter, because leave won by over a million votes anyway, so more than the total number CA held data on.
The remain side had the advantage in the campaign, there's nothing on the leave side that comes anywhere near what was spent by remain side, nor anywhere to the level of the government propaganda campaign, including the whole project fear nonsense.
SpineyNorman
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Lol have you talked to the working classes recently? Where did this utter stone bonker come from?
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Somebody has had a plumber round
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
There wasn't democracy to start off with
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Poor plumber having to listen to RTWL
Where the fuck do you think shit for brains ? If you havent noticed the massive swing to the right within working class culture than your the ones fucking detached from working class culture ! I am working class btw.
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Prove it. Sing chim chimminey
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krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
Surely it's only a few dicks online and those who like a photo op, like the other night?
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krtek a houby
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But that's mere anecdotage, where's the hard evidence?
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