Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[harpo]

Do you think I voted for Brexit?

I don't know.

 

[Wilf]

I don't know.

Well, you said I 'enabled it'.

To my mind, wherever it ends up, however bad it ends up being, the people who 'enabled it' are 2 generations of neo-liberal politicians and their associated business pals. But then we've all been round the block on this.

 

[harpo]

But there were plenty here who were proud of their brexit vote. And here is a song for them

 

[Wilf]

Oh dear.

 

[harpo]

Yes oh dear . It's the damage angry old white men do.

 

[Nine Bob Note]

So, are fag runs still allowed? If so, for how long?

 

[Marty1]

Yes oh dear . It's the damage angry old white men do.

Bunch of gammons

 

[2hats]

The earlier part of the graph looks more squished due to the scale of the graph being altered by the higher figures later on - higher figures that are a result of increased reporting. If you plotted just 2014 and 2015 the spikes would be more obvious.

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[tommers]

The earlier part of the graph looks more squished due to the scale of the graph being altered by the higher figures later on - higher figures that are a result of increased reporting. If you plotted just 2014 and 2015 the spikes would be more obvious.

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. Genuine LOL.

 

[Artaxerxes]

#gotourfreedomback

 

[philosophical]

Nor

Happy Brexit day everybody! Finally free from the tyranny of the insidious European death empire and able to strike out on our own like a small child venturing into the busy road for the first time.

We got it done!

No we didn't. Northern Ireland has been left out of what you may describe as your definition of 'we', it is now treated differently, but Northern Ireland wasn't left out of the referendum ballot paper.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Was gonna report that mad "angry white men" nonsense but given the chief recipient is all over that as a concept it's a bit pointless.

State of some of the unchanged unthinking narrative though, my word

 

[RTWL]

Everybody who voted brexit is a weak minded racist cunt. Anybody trolling , thinking LOL, lets wind up the peoples on teh interwebs who virtue signals , your more part of the problem then your fragmented little brains could ever concive . Lets see if you find the racist attacks LOL eh ? DIE SLOWLY CONFORMIST SCUM ... DIE .

 

[andysays]

Nor


No we didn't. Northern Ireland has been left out of what you may describe as your definition of 'we', it is now treated differently, but Northern Ireland wasn't left out of the referendum ballot paper.

Northern Ireland has been "left out", or more accurately been treated differently to the rest of the UK because of elements of the GFA, which you have previously argued at length it was important to follow.

Are you now trying to argue that the terms of the GFA don't matter and that NI should be treated in the same way as any other part of the UK?

 

[harpo]

Was gonna report that mad "angry white men" nonsense but given the chief recipient is all over that as a concept it's a bit pointless.

State of some of the unchanged unthinking narrative though, my word

Truth hurts eh

 

[philosophical]

Northern Ireland has been "left out", or more accurately been treated differently to the rest of the UK because of elements of the GFA, which you have previously argued at length it was important to follow.

Are you now trying to argue that the terms of the GFA don't matter and that NI should be treated in the same way as any other part of the UK?

Not at all.
I am stating what seems an obvious situation in that on the ballot paper there was no mention of the GFA, no mention of the UK only meaning Wales, Scotland and England. No mention that Northern Ireland would not be treated the same way as any other part of the UK.
Leave voters have demanded that their result is honoured especially because they knew what they were voting for, what is happening is not honouring the result of the referendum as it was framed both on the ballot paper, and dare I say in the campaign at the time.
I believe the terms of the GFA do matter, and this still remains the issue that leave voters have to explain to the rest of us when there are two different systems either side of a land border.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Truth hurts eh

Not as much as ignorance

 

[Pickman's model]

So, are fag runs still allowed? If so, for how long?

Until you get caught

 

[Pickman's model]

Not as much as ignorance

It's wicked to mock the afflicted

 

[harpo]

It's wicked to mock the afflicted

Angry old white men being angry.

 

[brogdale]

Joining the EEC took the UK state at least 12 years to accomplish from the first application in 1961...so...if the Government is keen to hedge their bets...a Brejoin by 2032 might well require a formal application today.

 

[Pickman's model]

Angry old white men being angry.

It'd be worth more if what you were saying were either original, interesting, or adding to the discussion

 

[kebabking]

I, for one, am astonished that a political movement that called the people it was trying to persuade racist scum who should die failed to get those same people to change their minds.

Astonished, astonished I say....

 

[krtek a houby]

Everybody who voted brexit is a weak minded racist cunt. Anybody trolling , thinking LOL, lets wind up the peoples on teh interwebs who virtue signals , your more part of the problem then your fragmented little brains could ever concive . Lets see if you find the racist attacks LOL eh ? DIE SLOWLY CONFORMIST SCUM ... DIE .

Calm down. It's not as bad as it seems.

 

[Artaxerxes]

I, for one, am astonished that a political movement that called the people it was trying to persuade racist scum who should die failed to get those same people to change their minds.

Astonished, astonished I say....

Perhaps, just a suggestion mind, just putting it out there as an idea, if the movement to leave the EU hadn’t been headed by, front of housed by and sponsored by racists the Remain move might not have called them racist?

 

[kebabking]

Well, the sky is still where it was yesterday, and the turnip-based diet hasn't yet come to fruition....

 

[Pickman's model]

Perhaps, just a suggestion mind, just putting it out there as an idea, if the movement to leave the EU hadn’t been headed by, front of housed by and sponsored by racists the Remain move might not have called them racist?

you don't remember the guardian, for example, saying during the ref campaign that the only people who'd vote for Brexit were thick working class racists

 

[RTWL]

Calm down. It's not as bad as it seems.

Yes it is. Have you talked to the working classes recently ? Hook line and sinker ! This is simply another stunning victory for the manipulation techniques devoloped by Cambridge Analytica Ltd. No more democracy ! As Nigel said ... this Populism is really catching on .

 

[Artaxerxes]

you don't remember the guardian, for example, saying during the ref campaign that the only people who'd vote for Brexit were thick working class racists

If I took the guardian seriously I’d have bigger problems than brexit

 

[kebabking]

Perhaps, just a suggestion mind, just putting it out there as an idea, if the movement to leave the EU hadn’t been headed by, front of housed by and sponsored by racists the Remain move might not have called them racist?

Do you think butchersapron is racist, or Peter Shore is racist, or any other people who have consistently argued for leaving the EU from a left position for the 40+ years - like MC Corbo for example - have you not read the endless research that has repeatedly made clear that leave voters were motivated by many things, many of them complaints against neo-liberalism?

Have you not grasped in your own life that if you call someone scum who should die they are somewhat less likely to come round to your way of thinking than might otherwise be the case?