How has Brexit actually affected you so far?

[butchersapron]

EDIT: This is a great example of possible opportunities that Brexit has provided, facing up to the Tories and demanding that they have to pay. Anyone who claims to be progressive/left-wing/whatever should be getting out there and supporting them. This is a, potentially anyway, positive thing. And some people are attacking it. Christ

Bingo.

 

[Spymaster]

Didn't you say you voted for Boris as mayor?

Yes, specifically against Ken livingstone. I voted for Khan last time. Big difference between voting for a local mayor for 4 years who we can subsequently vote out, and ticking the same box as a fuck-load of racists in an absolutely irreversable decision that the left have no plan to take advantage of.

 

[fucthest8]

Crap no, that's not what I was trying to say.

I said "Yeah, that's telling the liberals. Yeah, that's telling the bosses club." I just don't see how it is.

 

[butchersapron]

Or voting to stay in union that you cannot subsequently vote out or have any say over - no matter what stripe of candidate that you elect.

 

[emanymton]

The more I look as it the more this is a truly disgusting post.

You have a council of a deprived area attempting to make sure that it's services and facilities can be maintained by putting pressure on the government and rather than standing solidly behind that, you attack them. You're a fucking disgrace.

EDIT: This is a great example of possible opportunities that Brexit has provided, facing up to the Tories and demanding that they have to pay. Anyone who claims to be progressive/left-wing/whatever should be getting out there and supporting them. This is a, potentially anyway, positive thing. And some people are attacking it. Christ

It's like the think the EU just made this money magically apear from nowhere, instead of largely coming from the UK government in the first place. Basically a deprived area of the country is asking for money that used to come to it via the EU to be paid direct instead. And people are opposing it, presumably they would prefer tax cuts for the rich or something instead.

 

[Poi E]

The latter won't and the former was happening anyway. Contradiction of parts of the remain campaign - the EU can't stop British governments doing what they want but if you leave they won't stop British governments doing what they want.

Whatever the result had been you'd need to have woken up anti-Tory.

Derogation from certain Directives was not possible, including environmental ones and equality. There are restrictions on the sovereignty of Parliament.

 

[butchersapron]

Derogation from certain Directives was not possible, including environmental ones and equality. There are restrictions on the sovereignty of Parliament.

Yes there are two tiers that our govt has little or no choice over. Remain both denied this and said that it's a good thing.

 

[brogdale]

This is clearly something that is prompting people to research online, but the 2nd most common enquiry listed below demonstrates the level that some folk are operating from...

 

[butchersapron]

Al those remain voters doing some last minute research.

 

[YouSir]

Yep, specifically against Ken livingstone. Khan last time. Big difference between voting for a local mayor for 4 years who we can subsequently vote out, and ticking the same box as a fuck-load of racists in an absolutely irreversable decision that the left have no plan to take advantage of.

Yeah, well done you.

 

[stethoscope]

Yes, specifically against Ken livingstone. I voted for Khan last time. Big difference between voting for a local mayor for 4 years who we can subsequently vote out, and ticking the same box as a fuck-load of racists in an absolutely irreversable decision that the left have no plan to take advantage of.

Livingstone who actually did stuff for ordinary Londoners and had a good track record on anti-racism. But you voted for someone that called black people 'piccaninnies'.

 

[YouSir]

Livingstone who actually did stuff for ordinary Londoners and had a good track record on anti-racism. But you voted for someone that called black people 'piccaninnies'.

But only once, so that's OK.

 

[Spymaster]

Livingstone who actually did stuff for ordinary Londoners and had a good track record on anti-racism. But you voted for someone that called black people 'piccaninnies'.

Yes. And whilst that may have been a mistake I honestly don't think the consequences of it were as bad as they will be for what you've done.

 

[stethoscope]

Yes. And whilst that may have been a mistake I honestly don't think the consequences of it were as bad as they will be for what you've done.

For what I've done. Really.

 

[Spymaster]

For what I've done. Really.

All of you, of course.

 

[weltweit]

A lot of continentals here in the UK quite nervous about their status now. Don't yet know what UK nationals living in France Spain or Germany think, probably similar though.

 

[brogdale]

Yes, specifically against Ken livingstone. I voted for Khan last time. Big difference between voting for a local mayor for 4 years who we can subsequently vote out, and ticking the same box as a fuck-load of racists in an absolutely irreversable decision that the left have no plan to take advantage of.

On a (semi) related point...have to say that I've been mulling over the 'hangover' impact of the racist Goldsmith campaign on the levels of remain support in London. I'm thinking that the very bad taste left by that vile mayoral campaign might well have repelled significant numbers of potential, non-tory, London remain voters from aligning themselves with the tory leadership.

 

[Poi E]

Yes there are two tiers that our govt has little or no choice over. Remain both denied this and said that it's a good thing.

Pretty romantic notion thinking that people can influence government to any meaningful degree.

 

[Tankus]

My euros are going to cost me more when I'm off to Spain for me hols in a month or two

 

[butchersapron]

Pretty romantic notion thinking that people can influence government to any meaningful degree.

Whose notion is that then - mine or the remainers? The reform the EU from withiners?

 

[Poi E]

Whose notion is that then - mine or the remainers? The reform the EU from withiners?

Thought you were suggesting it, as if the referendum result will produce benefits (not suggesting remaining would have, necessarily. Not sure I give a fuck as an immigrant who could bugger off back to where he came from.)

 

[Orang Utan]

Ah, like Cornwall you mean? Who are now demanding the government subsidises them the same amount they used to get from Europe.

Why wouldn't they?

 

[Treacle Toes]

Why wouldn't they?

Doesn't that work on the assumption that the money that was being sent to the EU/being invested locally from the EU is now available and won't be ring-fenced/used for other things?

 

[machine cat]

Don't you metropolitan liberals get it yet? We've had enough.

 

[machine cat]

Are you serious?

Yes

 

[Winot]

Don't you metropolitan liberals get it yet? We've had enough.

What do you see as the best next step (one that's reasonably likely to happen)?

 

[machine cat]

What do you see as the best next step (one that's reasonably likely to happen)?

No idea

 

[Winot]

No idea

Oh well. I'm sure the metropolitan liberals will think of something.

 

[Duncan2]

Oh well. I'm sure the metropolitan liberals will think of something.

They already have.Jonathan Powell was on Newsnight suggesting that there should be a new Election with Labour's manifesto pledging to lead the UK back into the EU.

 

[Winot]

They already have.Jonathan Powell was on Newsnight suggesting that there should be a new Election with Labour's manifesto pledging to lead the UK back into the EU.

That's my favoured option. Needs a new Labour leader though.