Hillsborough Independent Panel findings and release of documents.

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Sky £.

Not sure if Murdoch would pull Sky out for the sun tho, Sky needs football as much as football needs Sky, don't it?

 

[1927]

Not sure if Murdoch would pull Sky out for the sun tho, Sky needs football as much as football needs Sky, don't it?

Sky needs football MORE than football needs Sky!

 

[Beetlebum]

Sky £.

Yes. Ultimately booting the Sun out while continuing to take the multi millions from Sky is nothing more than tokenism.

And before you ask I think the Sun article in the wake of Hillsborough was vile.

 

[Beetlebum]

Sky needs football MORE than football needs Sky!

Slightly off topic but yes, football could certainly survive without Sky. What I think it would struggle to do is survive in its current form without subscription telly from someone.

Everytime the Premier League rights come up for renewal there are rumours of billions from China or the Middle East to bankroll an attempt to outbid Sky.

So far they have failed to materialise. Maybe next time.

 

[brogdale]

Not sure if Murdoch would pull Sky out for the sun tho, Sky needs football as much as football needs Sky, don't it?

Quite possibly, but remember we're looking at corporations contractually bound in the production of a product. Their owners are unlikely to relish undertaking any gestures that might destabilise their profit stream, and remember the further down the Prem, the greater the reliance on revenue from broadcast rights.

 

[JTG]

No, Sky is not going to take a bullet for the Sun. Don't be ridiculous

 

[JTG]

"Sky TV today announced it is not going to bid against BT Sport for live rights because the Sun had been banned from AFC Bournemouth"

No

 

[1927]

Quite possibly, but remember we're looking at corporations contractually bound in the production of a product. Their owners are unlikely to relish undertaking any gestures that might destabilise their profit stream, and remember the further down the Prem, the greater the reliance on revenue from broadcast rights.

revenue from broadcast rights will still be there.

 

[brogdale]

None of which contradicts the fact that the corporation of the Prem (& its corporate club 'Shareholders') might seek to maintain relations with media owned by the founder/owner of 21st C Fox.

 

[Voley]

Personally, I'll 'move on' when the guilty are doing some time. That's just me though.

How the families do so is entirely up to them, if indeed they ever can or want to. If I'd lost both of my daughters I doubt I ever would tbh. I hope the families will be able to move on one day. In their own way, at their own time, however they want to do so.

YNWA.

 

[chandlerp]

It actually isn't that long ago since The Sun was banned by Liverpool. Klopp insisted on it.

 

[JTG]

Yes. Ultimately booting the Sun out while continuing to take the multi millions from Sky is nothing more than tokenism.

Well it's not because the reason for banning the Sun is very specifically because it has been abusive to Ross Barkley, his heritage and the city of Liverpool. To the best of my knowledge that isn't the case with Sky. They haven't banned the Times either.

 

[8den]

I'm quite tickled to see that the Liverpool Echo house style is to always refer to "The Sun" as "The S*n".

Everton ban The S*n from all club premises

 

[ViolentPanda]

Define culpable.

This was clearly police incompetance of the highest order combined with dreadful outdated stadium design but you seem to be implying it is something more.

Look up the word in the dictionary. It's about to whom the blame accrues, not about whether the fault was deliberate or accidental.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Protecting the reputations of senior police was more important than giving closure to the families and friends of 96 dead human beings, and it didn't make a bit of difference that an entire city was thrown under a bus to do it.

That's what the police can do, and have done. Fuck your feelings.

And let's be utterly blunt about this, it was protecting the reputations of senior police, many of whom already had black marks against them from HMIC for poor fulfillment of their supervisory roles. These men weren't for the most part the creme de la creme, they were the scum that also rises.

 

[JTG]

Chester FC have made a statement in support of Liverpool & Everton's stance saying that while they're fortunate in not having any dealings with the S*n, they will take the bans into consideration in the future

 

[belboid]

Chester FC have made a statement in support of Liverpool & Everton's stance saying that while they're fortunate in not having any dealings with the S*n, they will take the bans into consideration in the future

there was a report from Tranmere this morning saying we have enacted a 'de facto' ban on them for the last two years. We then clarified 'de facto' as meaning 'they don't cover non-league football'

 

[Bernie Gunther]

 

[DaveCinzano]

The IPCC has flagged up an update today:

Hillsborough update - May 2017 | Independent Police Complaints Commission

Hillsborough update - May 2017​

Posted 12 May 2017 - 10:30am by Rachel Cerfontyne
This is the latest update on the Independent Police Complaints Commission’s (IPCC) Hillsborough investigation.

Latest news from Operation Resolve can be found here.

Since formally referring evidence files to the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS)(link is external) in January this year and concluding the majority of criminal enquiries, we have been focussed on examining over 170 allegations of misconduct. These include complaints from Hillsborough family members and survivors of the disaster, and matters that have been identified during the course of the inquiry.

Investigative work on the complaints about police actions in the aftermath of the disaster is almost complete. We are now at a stage where the evidence gathered is being considered. These findings will be set out in individual investigation reports, which will form part of a more extensive final report containing comprehensive findings from both our independent and managed investigations. We expect these to be published after any potential criminal proceedings have concluded.

The CPS has informed us that it will make charging decisions on the West Midlands Police (WMP) aspect of the IPCC investigationseparately to the South Yorkshire Police (SYP) strand. It has identified additional investigative work that needs to be completed on the WMP file before fully informed decisions can be made. While the CPS has worked with the IPCC throughout the investigation, providing early advice on various aspects, the first opportunity it had to examine the entire evidence file was when we formally referred it in January. This contained material the CPS had not previously seen. The additional work is well advanced and we expect to finish and submit this by the end of May.

It is important to note that the CPS intends to deliver all charging decisions on the SYP evidence file within its original six-month timeframe.

We informed families last month that we had passed a Hillsborough-related allegation about a retired SYP officer who was on duty at the 1989 FA Cup semi-final to Durham Constabulary. The force has since informed us that its enquiries are now on hold and will resume after the main CPS (link is external)charging decisions have been made.

The disclosure team is making good progress and remains on track to provide material to the CPS(link is external) within agreed deadlines. This process is being undertaken in line with legislation ahead of decisions on any potential prosecutions.​

 

[chandlerp]

still referring to "potential" prosecutions so no certainty at all.

 

[Teaboy]

still referring to "potential" prosecutions so no certainty at all.

It's up to the CPS.

 

[Treacle Toes]

CPS to announce Hillsborough charging decisions next week

 

[butchersapron]

6 charged - including Bettison and Duckenfield. 5 SYP or ex SYP.

 

[butchersapron]

 

[Artaxerxes]

About fucking time.

 

[butchersapron]

Note total lack of west mids charges when they were firmly in the centre of the cover-up.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

YES!

Some hefty prison time is available for such heinous criminality.

Note total lack of west mids charges when they were firmly in the centre of the cover-up.

Perhaps once this first lot are doing their porridge West Midlands can be looked at?

 

[skyscraper101]

West Mids is a seperate decision...

Hillsborough Disaster: Inquiries continue over West Midlands Police role in 'cover-up'

Rachel Cerfontyne, deputy chairwoman of the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC), said: "The CPS has informed us that it will make charging decisions on the West Midlands Police (WMP) aspect of the IPCC investigation separately to the South Yorkshire Police (SYP) strand.

"It has identified additional investigative work that needs to be completed on the WMP file before fully informed decisions can be made.

 

[butchersapron]

For those looked at and not charged:

 

[Wilf]

Note total lack of west mids charges when they were firmly in the centre of the cover-up.

I think they are to be announced later? Sorry, couldn't find a link other than the Daily Mail on that.
edit - beaten to it.