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Hillsborough Independent Panel findings and release of documents.

I note that the cps announcer refers to bettison as 'norman bettison' not 'sir norman bettison' (0:52). A very small point in the bigger picture, but a nice little further step in his transition to the dock (give or take an ernest saunders style onset of strategic reversible dementia).

 
Yes - that said, he's charged with manslaughter by gross negligence so the above may not apply. I shall check. Seems to be accurate for all manslaughter.
 
butchersapron said:
Yes - that said, he's charged with manslaughter by gross negligence so the above may not apply. I shall check. Seems to be accurate for all manslaughter.
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I seem to recall that a hospital order is for someone who was guilty of manslaughter (which would otherwise have been murder) by diminished responsibility i.e. they were mad at the time of the offence, not now. I'll check.
 
Ignore that. A hospital order is possible if someone is suffering serious metal health issue at the time of sentencing. But PTSD is unlikely to meet the threshold unless it's cripplingly bad.
 
I never thought I would see this (bittersweet) day. I was a bit overwhelmed at my own instant welling of tears when it flashed up yesterday. Fuck knows how it felt for the families and those who have fought alongside them for so long.

Could have been any ground, any set of fans, any given day given the contempt instruments of the State had for young working class people (and particularly football fans) throughout Thatcher's years.

A cynic might be inclined to think a) they will lump Orgreave in with this - get it all done in one go and b) they are keen to get it all off the table before Corbyn gets elected.
 
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Here's hoping that if Fuckenfield gets remanded in custody, he gets placed somewhere with lots of Liverpool fans.
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That's if the lying twat actually makes it to court. Wouldn't be surprised if he goes away in the night by his own hand TBH. Must be a bit of a lonely place now for him. He'll hide behind ill health for as long as he can in an effort to further deny the families justice.

Bettison will have the arrogance to fight it and I think he could be the slipperiest cunt to nail of all of them. Who knows.

Metcalf and Denton's perverting the course of justice/alteration of statements campaign should be easy enough to prove.

Bit on Metcalf here after the panels report was published.

Metcalf, when contacted by The Lawyer, said he had not read yesterday’s 389-page report. He said he had not instructed a lawyer on his behalf and questioned why he would need one.
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Former Hammonds partner implicated in Hillsborough cover-up - The Lawyer | Legal News and Jobs | Advancing the business of law

You'll clearly be needing one now you cunt.

We're a long way off yet.
 
They have said they are seeking to take steps to remove the legal impediment to including his death on the charge(s).

We are unable to charge the manslaughter of Anthony Bland, the 96th casualty, as he died almost four years later. The law as it applied then provided that no person could be guilty of homicide where the death occurred more than a year and a day later than the date when the injuries were caused. In order to prosecute this matter, the CPS will need to successfully apply to remove the stay imposed by a senior judge (now retired) at the end of the 1999 private prosecution when David Duckenfield was prosecuted for two counts of manslaughter by gross negligence previously. We will be applying to a High Court Judge to lift the stay and order that the case can proceed on a voluntary bill of indictment.
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They have said they are seeking to take steps to remove the legal impediment to including his death on the charge(s).
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Are you sure? I read that as separate sentences, the two relating to Tony Bland setting out the law at the time (which surely can't be retrospectively changed?). The other two relate to DD being charged.
 
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A very dignified response to it here from the family.

In a statement, his family said: "Whilst we are hugely disappointed with the exclusion of Tony from the manslaughter charge against [match commander] David Duckenfield by the CPS, our relief for the families of the other 95 men, women and children outweigh our personal frustrations.

"Justice has been achieved following the inquests [in April 2016], when the jury returned the verdict of all 96 victims being unlawfully killed at Hillsborough, and nothing will ever change that.

"We will continue to support the other families on the journey for accountability."
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Hillsborough: Tony Bland's family 'hugely disappointed' by no charges - BBC News

It is wrong and this wont be the last rule of law that these cunts will get to hide behind. They'll be clutching at every straw they can.
 
5 of the 6 in court today. I expect just a short thing and then a proper trial date sorted. Duckenfield still doesn't have to face any charges as the 'stay on prosecution' on him has not yet been lifted. So he isn't there. He has also applied for public funding for any defence if he ever does face charges. The other two ex-SYP have done the same.
 
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