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Hillsborough Independent Panel findings and release of documents.

Which would be on the immediate table for those whose names have been passed to CPS i think (depending on where perjury may be committed of course). The state has just told this lot it's over though - they won't be pursued.
 
Interestingly, the IPCC intends to report on whether it would have found misconduct, but for the officers' retirement. I wonder whether any new evidence they uncover that leads to that conclusion could form the basis of a limitation-defeating civil claim.
 
Never ending:

Hillsborough families to crowdfund to pay police chief's costs

A crowdfunding appeal has been set up for five people whose relatives died in the 1989 Hillsborough disaster, after a judge ordered them to pay the £28,000 legal costs of former South Yorkshire police chief constable David Crompton.

Lady Justice Sharp made the costs order after refusing an application by the five family members to be formally involved in Crompton’s appeal against his dismissal by the South Yorkshire police and crime commissioner Alan Billings, last year.
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(At the risk of being contraversial )

At what point do we move on from this?

Obviously not for the families concerned, but everyone else I mean.

It's getting nigh on thirty years now.
 
Beetlebum said:
(At the risk of being contraversial )

At what point do we move on from this?

Obviously not for the families concerned, but everyone else I mean.

It's getting nigh on thirty years now.
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When the families decide. They are the '''we' here. That doesn't look like it includes you.

Alternatively, when the legal processes are finished in fair manner.
 
Beetlebum said:
(At the risk of being contraversial )

At what point do we move on from this?

Obviously not for the families concerned, but everyone else I mean.

It's getting nigh on thirty years now.
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The football community will never forget. 96 people went to a football match and never came back.

We haven't forgotten players from longer than 30 years ago so why would we forget fellow fans.
 
butchersapron said:
When the families decide. They are the '''we' here. That doesn't look like it includes you.
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No it doesn't.
B.I.G said:
The football community will never forget. 96 people went to a football match and never came back.

We haven't forgotten players from longer than 30 years ago so why would we forget fellow fans.
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Fair point. I realise this is still a sensitive subject for very good reasons.

But there will and must come a point for moving on. Hopefully we can get everything wrapped up for the 30th anniversary.
 
B.I.G said:
The football community will never forget. 96 people went to a football match and never came back.

We haven't forgotten players from longer than 30 years ago so why would we forget fellow fans.
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The victims of Bradford have been pretty much forgotten!
 
1927 said:
I must have missed the annual outpouring of grief for them for the past 30 years!
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The bradford tragedy is remembered every year. Maybe not by you, i don't know. But it's not been part of a such a wide and deep elite level conspiracy to hide the truth and malign the victims as Hillsborough which means the latter is more in the headlines. I hope there has been some investigation into the claims the chairman set the fire - have you been on the case demanding an inquest into that with the families?

Good day to do this btw. Rather than the 11th may you instead use it to undermine those remembering what happened on april 15th.

Nice one.
 
Beetlebum said:
Hopefully everything can be wrapped up for the 30th anniversary.

Better?
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No. It still implies that the emotional and legal ties that this tragedy and the subsequent cover up produced are yours to police and it ignores the fact that the main plank of the ongoing cover-up is to drag the legal element out as long as possible to so that a) the culpable might die without punishment and b) the victims and their families give up their fight for justice.
 
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butchersapron said:
No. It still implies that the emotional and legal ties that this tragedy and the subsequent cover up produced are yours to police and it ignores the fact that the main ongoing plank of the cover-up is to drag the legal element out as long as possible to so that a) the culpable might die without punishment and b) the victims and their families give up their fight for justice.
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OK third and final attempt.

My personal opinion is that it would be better all round if this was concluded in the next couple of years, ie in time for the 30th anniversary.
 
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