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Hillsborough Independent Panel findings and release of documents.

Fedayn said:
He was a cunt for doing The Word but Terry Christian has a really good blog piece here
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Cheers for the heads up - been following him on twitter since you mentioned his blog post, I would never have imagined him to be so passionate about social justice issues TBH.
 
Jack Straw, a weaselly politician? Shurely not!

Close family friend to Mandelson's spear carrier-turned-Russian oligarch Benjamin Wegg-Prosser, too.
 
Freaking internet connection playing up. I posted the same thing twice so now I have to edit one post and try and say something interesting here.

Hmmmm....

Mackenzie should have some idea of how to manage news stories. This suggests he has lost the plot completely.

He is on record as saying the story came from "a Liverpool press agency", so he can't just change his version to blaming it all on SYP. He's got to admit he's a cunt to himself to get out of this. He can't.
 
Favelado said:
Freaking internet connection playing up. I posted the same thing twice so now I have to edit one post and try and say something interesting here.

Hmmmm....

Mackenzie should have some idea of how to manage news stories. This suggests he has lost the plot completely.

He is on record as saying the story came from "a Liverpool press agency", so he can't just change his version to blaming it all on SYP. He's got to admit he's a cunt to himself to get out of this. He can't.
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He's a former editor of a national newspaper. Of course he believes he can get away with changing his story in spite of all the evidence there happens to be lying around showing that he's a lying shitcunt.
 
cesare said:
Venal bastard.
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I reckon it's worse than venality, it's a craven and cowardly attempt to deflect righteous opprobrium and, let's face it, righteous hatred from people he repeatedly maligned for more than 20 years.
If Kelvin McKenzie were on fire, I wouldn't even kick him, just in case I doused any of the flames.
 
ViolentPanda said:
I reckon it's worse than venality, it's a craven and cowardly attempt to deflect righteous opprobrium and, let's face it, righteous hatred from people he repeatedly maligned for more than 20 years.
If Kelvin McKenzie were on fire, I wouldn't even kick him, just in case I doused any of the flames.
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That what I meant by the "bastard" part (I agree). Plus he's chancing on some comp.
 
Article I wrote for a leftist paper up here

On Wednesday 12 September, the beginning of the full disclosure of what really happened at Hillsborough started.
Some of the details that many of the families, Liverpool supporters, other football fans and friends we’d long ‘known’ were released.
I sat in work in tears reading some of the Hillsborough Independent Panel’s findings…
I cast my mind back to that day. On 15 April 1989 I went to an FA Cup semi-final in Birmingham. Everton won 1-0 against Norwich – I should have been bouncing home, another Wembley Cup final. Sadly though, news from the other semi-final at Hillsborough cut that celebration rather short. The horror of what happened that day at Hillsborough is well known to many.
But the real story, as many of us already ‘knew’ was kept quiet. What came out that Wednesday must have surprised and horrified even the most determined of people. That South Yorkshire Police lied about what happened at Hillsborough on that day came as no surprise to anyone. But the sheer scale of the cover-up and indeed corruption exposed by the Hillsborough Independent Panel was and still is stunning in its spread.
The cover-up was underway whilst people were still dying.
Unsurprisingly, Cameron and co, whilst apologising for the cover-up, clearly see this as a good day – they want this to be seen as their openness their concern and care.
But what that masks is the role of Cameron’s predecessor, Thatcher, in this. Their desire to have the Taylor Report ‘get it right’ is there for all to see. Clearly, that she sent Douglas Hurd to speak to Taylor to put ‘their side’ shows they knew more.
What more they knew is still a mystery, but the idea that a cover-up involving hundreds, with such senior police had no political backing is frankly laughable. This was the South Yorkshire Police who, along with several other police forces, were part of Thatcher’s army of thuggery on the miners’ strike picket lines.
This is the police force that committed acts of brutality at Orgreave during that strike. As a result of Orgreave, 95 pickets were charged with riot, unlawful assembly and similar offences after the battle.
A number of these were put on trial in 1987, but the trials collapsed, all charges were dropped and a number of lawsuits were brought against the police for unlawful arrest. South Yorkshire Police later agreed to pay £425,000 compensation and £100,000 in legal costs to 39 pickets in an out of court settlement.
The smears from that day echo like the disgrace which is the South Yorkshire Police involvement at Hillsborough.
Many, myself and many readers no doubt included, have no trouble seeing the cover-up of Hillsborough as being Thatcher and the Tories’ pay-back for the miners strike, especially Orgreave.
The findings of the report are not the end, they are the disgracefully late beginnings, the original inquest must be struck from the records, new inquests based not on the appalling ‘3.15pm cut-off’ must be started and given the clear evidence of tampering with evidence as regards the statements charges must follow.
Only then will the families and friends of those who died and of those who survived that horrible day be able to begin to feel they’ve been listened to.
That it took 23 years for their voices to be heard will remain forever a disgrace and forever a blatant example of the class nature of the society we live in.
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:facepalm:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-19733681

A Conservative councillor who called the Hillsborough report "politically correct" and the Stephen Lawrence inquiry a "joke" is facing an investigation into his conduct.
Roger Taylor's remarks to Bradford charity Just will be probed by the Calderdale Council Standards Committee.
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The charity was set up to fight racism and civil injustice.
It said it received Mr Taylor's email after publishing an article on its website supporting the Hillsborough families' call for the Chief Constable of West Yorkshire Police, Sir Norman Bettison, to resign and face criminal prosecution.

In the email, released by the charity, Mr Taylor said of the Hillsborough report: "Are you telling me that this report is not overloaded with politically correct language rather like the Stephen Lawrence 'enquiry' (a joke in itself) was?"
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It said the organisation was "not fit to tie Sir Norman Bettison's shoe laces... so how dare you call for his resignation".
Mr Taylor's email also said: "As racist and anti-American Muslims once again rail against the west with their vile language of death to infidels you choose to ignore that and concentrate on Sir Norman
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Ratna Latchman, director of Just, defended the decision to publish the email.
She said: "As long as he was criticising us as an organisation we never went public with it but when as an elected representative he felt that he could undermine two public inquires that's the point at which we were very clear it was in the public interest to expose this man."
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And Kilfoyle of course having rode to prominence on the back of the Hillsborough families was later caught taking tickets for free stuff from the Sun - and he also entered the police commissioner race.
 
Local paper in Lincoln has published this report today containing statements from some off duty Lincs coppers who went to the game at Hillsborough that day:

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk...rough-heroes/story-17027305-detail/story.html

DC Dawson nearly died after being crushed against the fence, and nearly lost his friends too. The report says:


...according to Dawson it appeared the police on duty were oblivious to the situation and slow to react.
"At one point I saw some police officers at the front facing us and it appeared to me that they didn't realise what was happening. By this time the fear in myself and for Karen increased dramatically. I was screaming at the police officers to get the fencing down..."
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Amazingly, despite all this, DC Dawson says it wasn't the fault of the police, and blames the media for taking photos when they could have been helping victims.

On reflection, DC Dawson and the unnamed officer believed that the situation was unprecedented and that emergency services did as much as they could.
Dawson said: "From what I saw of the police operation and the way the officers responded, the way it became apparent to them at the front of the terracing, they did everything they could as did other emergency services and members of the public."
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So even after nearly fucking dying, this copper is still defending his colleagues in the police and trying to place the blame elsewhere. Amazing really.
 
Hard to comprehend how he could reach such an opinion after what he had experienced.
The statement is dated 16 May .just a month after the tragedy. would be very interesting to hear his opinion now.

IMO Whatever comes out over the next couple of years,there are fans who believe there is no way some police did not know that fans were in great distress,the fans were screaming at them to open the gates. even the Liverpool goalkeeper could hear them. they left it too late before they took action.
How they reacted after the fans spilled onto the pitch is another stage of Hillsborough.
 
Chief Constable Announces Retirement Date

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Thursday, October 4, 2012

Message from Sir Norman Bettison, Chief Constable



I have had the privilege to serve the people of West Yorkshire as their Chief Constable since 2007.

My term of appointment with West Yorkshire Police was due to end in January of this year, but was extended with the approval of the Police Authority and Home Secretary.

However recent weeks have caused me to reflect on what is best for the future of policing in West Yorkshire and I have now decided to set a firm date for my retirement of 31 March 2013.

I have offered this proposal to my Police Authority.

Whilst representing a personal decision, this will enable an incoming Police and Crime Commissioner, who will take up office on the 22nd of November, to begin the search immediately for a new Chief Constable who can take the Force forwards.

Furthermore, I hope it will enable the Independent Police Complaints Commission to fully investigate allegations that have been raised about my integrity. They need to be fairly and fully investigated and I welcome this independent and formal scrutiny.

The record of my leadership of West Yorkshire Police will speak for itself. Crime is down and public confidence is up.

I remain very proud to serve the people of West Yorkshire and work alongside the committed and professional police officers and staff of West Yorkshire Police. It remains my intention to maintain and improve the performance of the Force, whilst ensuring a smooth transition to a new Chief Constable.
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http://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/news/chief-constable-announces-retirement-date
 
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