Griffin and BNP strategy

[Pickman's model]

today their Nazi poster wagon driving around playing patriotic music

boys of the old brigade

 

[JimPage]

yes. and i suppose you can provide a link to the statement of candidates to support this claim.

Nope, not on council websites yet, but no reason to dount the specifics here= just local information form people reporting factually where they are standing and are not

 

[butchersapron]

Some London Candidates known so far
Camden 3, Tower Hamlets 3, Sutton 4, Merton 6, Hounslow 6, Ealing 2, Brent 1, Greenwich 13, Enfield 4, Croydon 9

More to follow, interested to see if they are able to fight enough canddiates to fight all of the winnable wards in Barking & Dagenham

Only (!) managed to make 34 candidates, leaving 17 uncontested. I'm not that up on the details of the make-up of the area but i'm told they'd have no chance in any Abbey, Gascoigne or Thames anyway which might soften the blow - if it's a blow at all, and i'm not sure it is, not beyond PR purposes anyway.

edit: and only 7 UKIP...

 

[butchersapron]

Surprisingly sensible piece (apart from the title) in the new Searchlight, briefly and non-hysterically outlining why the BNP are in a far better position today than the NF ever were even at the supposed height of their threat and why the wider socio-economic climate is helping further their upward dynamic. Of course, there's an implied criticism of the competitions run around like it's 1979 approach and a tentave recognition of the need to (yep) 'fill the vacuum'.

 

[The39thStep]

Should we have a poll on how many votes they will get?

 

[butchersapron]

We should, maybe give it a week or so though - see what locals polls saying and what searchlight and the mirror pull out of the hat.

 

[The39thStep]

We should, maybe give it a week or so though - see what locals polls saying and what searchlight and the mirror pull out of the hat.

I am going 400,000

 

[butchersapron]

I am going 400,000

This is just GE vote?

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Surprisingly sensible piece (apart from the title) in the new Searchlight, briefly and non-hysterically outlining why the BNP are in a far better position today than the NF ever were even at the supposed height of their threat and why the wider socio-economic climate is helping further their upward dynamic. Of course, there's an implied criticism of the competitions run around like it's 1979 approach and a tentave recognition of the need to (yep) 'fill the vacuum'.

Blimey that photo of Griffin with the "no to cruise" banner at the head of the march and a CND sign...you couldn't make it up. Crafty buggers.

 

[butchersapron]

Anti-Americanism has been part of the new-right since the late 70s. It's a genuine belief.

 

[JimPage]

Only (!) managed to make 34 candidates, leaving 17 uncontested. I'm not that up on the details of the make-up of the area but i'm told they'd have no chance in any Abbey, Gascoigne or Thames anyway which might soften the blow - if it's a blow at all, and i'm not sure it is, not beyond PR purposes anyway.

edit: and only 7 UKIP...

Agreed, the 34 are in batches of 3 in winnable wards, and single candidates in those which they have no hope in, but find it worth standing in anyway

And because their winnable wards are all covered, they have done enough here by way of candidate numbers in the right wards. They would have liked more, no doubt, but they have what they have

 

[JimPage]

Looks like in excess of 700 BNP canddiates in total, up from 363 the last time there areas

More NF than before are standing, 10 EFP and even the Nutzi BPP are standing one as well

here is current list of BNP

AMBER VALLEY 6
BARKING AND DAGENHAM 34
BARNET 1
BARNSLEY 21
BARROW 1
BASILDON 14
BASINGSTOKE 1
BASSETLAW 1
BEXLEY 26
BIRMINGHAM 30
BLACKBURN AND DARWEN 3
BOLTON 4
BURNLEY 10
BURY 10
BRADFORD 10
BRENT 1
BRISTOL 12
BROMLEY 3
BROXBOURNE 10
CALDERDALE 6
CAMDEN 3
CANNOCK 2
COLCHESTER 1
CRAWLEY 6
CROYDON 9
DERBY 5
DONCASTER 4
DUDLEY 4
EALING 2
ENFIELD 4
EPPING FOREST 4
GATESHEAD 16
GREENWICH 14
HARROGATE 3
HARTLEPOOL 5
HASTINGS 4
HAVERING 8
HILLINGDON 4
HOUNSLOW 6
HULL 2
IPSWICH 1
ISLINGTON 1
KIRKLEES 21
KNOWSLEY 1
LEEDS 31
LINCOLN 4
MANCHESTER 8
MERTON 6
MILTON KEYNES 1
N.E.LINCS 1
NORTH TYNESIDE 4
NEWCASTLE 23
NUNEATON 12
OLDHAM 1
PENDLE 9
PLYMOUTH 1
REDBRIDGE 7
REDDITCH 1
RICHMOND UPON THAMES 2
ROCHDALE 4
ROCHFORD 4
ROTHERHAM 11
SALFORD 9
SANDWELL 24
SEFTON 9
SHEFFIELD 13
SOLIHULL 16
SOUTH TYNESIDE 18
SOUTHEND ON SEA 17
SOUTHWARK 1
ST HELENS 8
STOCKPORT 9
STOKE ON TRENT 6
SUTTON 4
SWINDON 6
TAMESIDE 16
THURROCK 16
TOWER HAMLETS 3
WAKEFIELD 19
WALSALL 2
WANDSWORTH 1
WARRINGTON 1
WELWYN HATFIELD 1
WIGAN 19
WIRRAL 4
WOLVERHAMPTON 4

 

[Corax]

If recent history is anything to go by, even if they notch up stacks of representatives, half of them will ditch the party. At which point the BNP will say that they were mentally unstable and they didn't want them anyway.

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[butchersapron]

This is a serious thread

 

[Pickman's model]

Looks like in excess of 700 BNP canddiates in total, up from 363 the last time there areas

More NF than before are standing, 10 EFP and even the Nutzi BPP are standing one as well

here is current list of BNP

AMBER VALLEY 6
BARKING AND DAGENHAM 34
BARNET 1
BARNSLEY 21
BARROW 1
BASILDON 14
BASINGSTOKE 1
BASSETLAW 1
BEXLEY 26
BIRMINGHAM 30
BLACKBURN AND DARWEN 3
BOLTON 4
BURNLEY 10
BURY 10
BRADFORD 10
BRENT 1
BRISTOL 12
BROMLEY 3
BROXBOURNE 10
CALDERDALE 6
CAMDEN 3
CANNOCK 2
COLCHESTER 1
CRAWLEY 6
CROYDON 9
DERBY 5
DONCASTER 4
DUDLEY 4
EALING 2
ENFIELD 4
EPPING FOREST 4
GATESHEAD 16
GREENWICH 14
HARROGATE 3
HARTLEPOOL 5
HASTINGS 4
HAVERING 8
HILLINGDON 4
HOUNSLOW 6
HULL 2
IPSWICH 1
ISLINGTON 1
KIRKLEES 21
KNOWSLEY 1
LEEDS 31
LINCOLN 4
MANCHESTER 8
MERTON 6
MILTON KEYNES 1
N.E.LINCS 1
NORTH TYNESIDE 4
NEWCASTLE 23
NUNEATON 12
OLDHAM 1
PENDLE 9
PLYMOUTH 1
REDBRIDGE 7
REDDITCH 1
RICHMOND UPON THAMES 2
ROCHDALE 4
ROCHFORD 4
ROTHERHAM 11
SALFORD 9
SANDWELL 24
SEFTON 9
SHEFFIELD 13
SOLIHULL 16
SOUTH TYNESIDE 18
SOUTHEND ON SEA 17
SOUTHWARK 1
ST HELENS 8
STOCKPORT 9
STOKE ON TRENT 6
SUTTON 4
SWINDON 6
TAMESIDE 16
THURROCK 16
TOWER HAMLETS 3
WAKEFIELD 19
WALSALL 2
WANDSWORTH 1
WARRINGTON 1
WELWYN HATFIELD 1
WIGAN 19
WIRRAL 4
WOLVERHAMPTON 4

you seem to have missed the national liberal party

 

[mk12]

Looks like in excess of 700 BNP canddiates in total, up from 363 the last time there areas

More NF than before are standing, 10 EFP and even the Nutzi BPP are standing one as well

here is current list of BNP

AMBER VALLEY 6
BARKING AND DAGENHAM 34
BARNET 1
BARNSLEY 21
BARROW 1
BASILDON 14
BASINGSTOKE 1
BASSETLAW 1
BEXLEY 26
BIRMINGHAM 30
BLACKBURN AND DARWEN 3
BOLTON 4
BURNLEY 10
BURY 10
BRADFORD 10
BRENT 1
BRISTOL 12
BROMLEY 3
BROXBOURNE 10
CALDERDALE 6
CAMDEN 3
CANNOCK 2
COLCHESTER 1
CRAWLEY 6
CROYDON 9
DERBY 5
DONCASTER 4
DUDLEY 4
EALING 2
ENFIELD 4
EPPING FOREST 4
GATESHEAD 16
GREENWICH 14
HARROGATE 3
HARTLEPOOL 5
HASTINGS 4
HAVERING 8
HILLINGDON 4
HOUNSLOW 6
HULL 2
IPSWICH 1
ISLINGTON 1
KIRKLEES 21
KNOWSLEY 1
LEEDS 31
LINCOLN 4
MANCHESTER 8
MERTON 6
MILTON KEYNES 1
N.E.LINCS 1
NORTH TYNESIDE 4
NEWCASTLE 23
NUNEATON 12
OLDHAM 1
PENDLE 9
PLYMOUTH 1
REDBRIDGE 7
REDDITCH 1
RICHMOND UPON THAMES 2
ROCHDALE 4
ROCHFORD 4
ROTHERHAM 11
SALFORD 9
SANDWELL 24
SEFTON 9
SHEFFIELD 13
SOLIHULL 16
SOUTH TYNESIDE 18
SOUTHEND ON SEA 17
SOUTHWARK 1
ST HELENS 8
STOCKPORT 9
STOKE ON TRENT 6
SUTTON 4
SWINDON 6
TAMESIDE 16
THURROCK 16
TOWER HAMLETS 3
WAKEFIELD 19
WALSALL 2
WANDSWORTH 1
WARRINGTON 1
WELWYN HATFIELD 1
WIGAN 19
WIRRAL 4
WOLVERHAMPTON 4

For local councils?

 

[Pickman's model]

For local councils?

no, for fucking ice lollies

 

[Corax]

This is a serious thread

Sorry.

no, for fucking ice lollies

Didn't you hear butchers? FFS.

 

[Pickman's model]

Didn't you hear butchers? FFS.

when someone asks a silly question, like mk12 a minute ago, you need to slap them down so they don't do it again.

 

[butchersapron]

Sorry.



Didn't you hear butchers? FFS.

Contribute something, first.

 

[Corax]

They will implode though, whatever happens. Apart from older events - the Walkers quitting, Lee Barnes' hilarious attempts to present himself as legally qualified, and OMG Collett's arrest was the icing on the cake. They're a farce. I was much more worried about them a year ago. Now I'm finding it hard to take them seriously. Am I being naive?

 

[Pickman's model]

They will implode though, whatever happens. Apart from older events - the Walkers quitting, Lee Barnes' hilarious attempts to present himself as legally qualified, and OMG Collett's arrest was the icing on the cake. They're a farce. I was much more worried about them a year ago. Now I'm finding it hard to take them seriously. Am I being naive?

yes

 

[butchersapron]

They will implode though, whatever happens. Apart from older events - the Walkers quitting, Lee Barnes' hilarious attempts to present himself as legally qualified, and OMG Collett's arrest was the icing on the cake. They're a farce. I was much more worried about them a year ago. Now I'm finding it hard to take them seriously. Am I being naive?

They 'will implode' has been the mantra for the last 10 years. They haven't. They're here and more a danger than ever. Stop this fantasy.

Quick googles will not help.

 

[Corax]

They 'will implode' has been the mantra for the last 10 years. They haven't. They're here and more a danger than ever. Stop this fantasy.

Quick googles will not help.

Not a quick google butchers, thanks. I watch the BNP's 'progress' with interest. The party are laughable. Their national conference attracted about 300 people, who ended up in a drunken brawl. The 'party' are a fucking joke.

What I will concede is that this doesn't necessarily mean that they won't get votes from the disenfranchised and/or ignorant.

 

[butchersapron]

Not a quick google butchers, thanks. I watch the BNP's 'progress' with interest. The party are laughable. Their national conference attracted about 300 people, who ended up in a drunken brawl. The 'party' are a fucking joke.

What I will concede is that this doesn't necessarily mean that they won't get votes from the disenfranchised and/or ignorant.

That party can get a million votes whilst being this rabble.

You spout out searchlight google irrelevance. Watch what you want. This is what's happening. Lazy cliches make no difference.

 

[butchersapron]

They'll really really implode this time!

Oh no, they didn't.

Back down the mountain.

 

[DarthSydodyas]

Not a quick google butchers, thanks. I watch the BNP's 'progress' with interest. The party are laughable. Their national conference attracted about 300 people, who ended up in a drunken brawl. The 'party' are a fucking joke.

What I will concede is that this doesn't necessarily mean that they won't get votes from the disenfranchised and/or ignorant.

Yet their show of support crowd gather in greater numbers than anti-facist/bnp/racimalism groups.

 

[Corax]

That party can get a million votes whilst being this rabble.

You spout out searchlight google irrelevance. Watch what you want. This is what's happening. Lazy cliches make no difference.

Whatever. The conference numbers came from a university anti-fash group iirc, certainly not searchlight. Can't remember which one, and funnily enough it's not in my browser history. Like I've said, this ain't a quick google job even if I haven't joined in your particular circle-jerk thread. You stick with your assumptions if it makes you feel better, I really don't give a fuck.

 

[butchersapron]

Off you go then.

All welcome, just don't be a dick.

 

[Corax]

Off you go then.

All welcome, just don't be a dick.

Questioning whether there's any real threat you mean?

You think there is.
I disagree.

Outrageous.