Goldsmiths University Diversity officer facing sack
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The Flying Pig
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Having previous experience of sisters uncut, they are just a bunch of middle class self publicity seeking group with no interest in anything other than self promotion. They are divisive and intersectionalist .I would recommend anyone with true intentions to stay well clear of this group.Nothing new is it? Limited focus on the more palatable parts of history (even when it is about unpalatable women's suffrage), and the more palatable views/position of those being celebrated...Damn right there was a choice by the film makers. Equally Sisters Uncut made the right choice to protest this IMO.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
that's quite a divisive comment
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
true intentions of what?
The Flying Pig
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Solidarity with all working class women! they are living the real life!
The Flying Pig
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Go for it big man!
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Starry Wisdom
have you thought of putting your name forward to fill the gap left by mango5's departure of modhood?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
that's rich!
hell no, i just thought it was funny
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
big men don't come bigger than you.
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wobbly
part of the problem is that it hasn't been looked at. there was literally nothing until this year when a biog of singh was published. and as much as it looks like we have the role of women in that era is covered, it's still new enough as a field for their to be massive gaps. I spent a while looking for answers to these questions a couple of years ago and even when this went as far as discussing with postcolonial feminist historians, they didn't know either.
the more we find out, the better.
but what i do know about many of the women involved in feminism in that era, there's a lot of distinctly unpleasant ideas. fawcett was classist and pro imperialist. bessant believed in some very odd racialist philosophy, stopes in eugenics. as a movement, we want heroes, but our heroes had their bad side and we want heroes who were perfect. criticizing those heroes becomes attacking the movement, because we're used to being under seige from people who do so. in the end, i think that the odd and nasty beliefs of some of the movement's founders are less of a discredit to feminism than refusing to address those beliefs.
idk if we will find deliberate exclusion or hiding black women, but whatever we find, we need to address. and address the points that sisters uncut are raising how minority women get fucked over and how they are not protected from abuse. and the willingness to accept that multiculturalism means accepting screwing over women (recommend reading Sarah Song - Justice, gender, and the politics of multiculturalism for a look at this, should be compulsory reading for anyone asking why minority women complain feminism fails them)
and for whoever thought up those tshirts - you fucking idiot.
The Flying Pig
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Big enough to smell a rat! sisters uncut have nothing to do with feminism
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
Feminism isnt just a singular group, you get all different kinds of aspects really.
The Flying Pig
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Im guessing the original slogan was trying to create a link between feminist campaigns and the anti slavery campaigns. which makes more sence in it's context than it's does now. but to use it now is a long way past being considerate or thoughtful an well into being a fucking ignorant twat
Treacle Toes
Time
That's a big claim. How are you deciding who and who doesn't have something/anything to do with feminism?
The Flying Pig
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Middle class misandrists. Absolutely nothing to do with feminism and certainly no connection with the working class.
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wobbly
why do you get to define who is and isn't feminist?
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what qualifications do you have that makes you better able to define who is and isn't feminist than the women defining themselves as feminist?
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wobbly
still lacking any evidence.....
Treacle Toes
Time
Feminism is only a working class woman's issue?
Also, can you outline what Feminism is? That way I might be able to understand why you are making such big, blanket statements about what women struggle for and against.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The use of the quote is nonsense tbh as is the offense at it. It is clearly meant in the colloquial rhetorical sense of making a stand. Any other questions about what the film makers went with should stand apart from that.
The Flying Pig
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I hope you are nothing to do with them. If not do some research and find out for yourself. Middle class bored spoilt brats, the absolute opposite of any self respecting working class feminist.That's a big claim. How are you deciding who and who doesn't have something/anything to do with feminism?
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i note you're still avoiding answering any questions as to how you're qualified to tell us what is and isn't proper feminism.
The Flying Pig
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Investigate them for yourself and then it is your choice to decide.Feminism is only a working class woman's issue?
Also, can you outline what Feminism is? That way I might be able to understand why you are making such big, blanket statements about what women struggle for and against.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I love viz. When are you first appearing?
Treacle Toes
Time
Thank you for your unnecessary, condescending advice. Could you answer the questons I asked of you please?
The Flying Pig
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Only an opinion. form your own. Get involved with them and find out for yourself.
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so the only choice i'm left with is to believe you're spouting off shit that you know nothing about.
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wobbly
based on what evidence......
The Flying Pig
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Not at all. If you are too lazy to find out yourself that is up to you. I have plenty of experience of S.U. and that is my conclusion.
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