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InArduisFouette said:
you claim to be ex expert on healthcare yet you don't know what a Primary Qualifying Degree is ? i.e. a Degree which leads to eligibility w for registration with a relevant professional regulator
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And where is my claim of "expertise on healthcare" that you brought up?

All I said was that in order for trans people to truly feel better, they must medically transition. Under socialism, that is guaranteed for free.
 
Yugoslav said:
Ignored no such for she turned reactionary on me. A reactionary in the sense that she vehemently defended her idealism from the painful truth of such for it was clear that her "opposite-gender" clothing was not enough and that she looked like a funny tomboy to me. But what is there to not like about tomboys, especially when you have a soft tomboy? Sadly, tomboys are labeled as "TERFs" by the idealists because tomboys are materially confident with not wearing traditional female clothing.

Her being a tomboy would have pleased both her femininity and masculinity.
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you clearly have no clue what you are talking about

Tomboys and Soft Butches are not labelled as TERFs unless they are actually TERFs ...


you really are utterly delusional with regard to this topic and seem to be adamant that you will continue to cissplain the topic regardsless of what you are told by others man , woman or anythign in bettwen / outside that binary, cisgender or transgender ...
 
Yugoslav said:
And where is my claim of "expertise on healthcare" that you brought up?

All I said was that in order for trans people to truly feel better, they must medically transition. Under socialism, that is guaranteed for free.
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your assertions to expertise are clear fro mthe fact you continue to speak over people who are well established on this board and have demonstrated their bopna fides on the topic over months or years

where oyu appeared yesterday with an inflammatory username and started spouting concern trolling transphobia and engaging in the othering of trans folks , seemingly for the fun of it
 
InArduisFouette said:
your assertions to expertise are clear fro mthe fact you continue to speak over people who are well established on this board and have demonstrated their bopna fides on the topic over months or years

where oyu appeared yesterday with an inflammatory username and started spouting concern trolling transphobia and engaging in the othering of trans folks , seemingly for the fun of it
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Why insult my username? The word "Yugoslav" is not inflammatory. Also, this is not a troll. None of it is a trollsome intention. It is the genuine concern of me against this Fabianite revisionism that is destroying socialism in Britain but also how other socialists in the West cater to the liberal idealism of the bourgeoisie.

As Lenin said,

"People always have been the foolish victims of deception and self-deception in politics, and they always will be until they have learnt to seek out the interests of some class or other behind allmoral, religious, political and social phrases, declarations and promises."

- The Three Sourcesand Three Component Parts of Marxism (1913)
 
InArduisFouette said:
you really are utterly delusional with regard to this topic and seem to be adamant that you will continue to cissplain the topic regardsless of what you are told by others man , woman or anythign in bettwen / outside that binary, cisgender or transgender ...
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"Cissplain", another one of those Fabianite terms I suppose?

During the times of Tito, there was no need to "socially transition". Though little is known about LGBT history due to a lack of information other than simple explanation that homosexuality was criminalized until the 1970s. As for trans people, that wasn't the case until after Yugoslavia fell apart. However, I support the law in Bosnia stating that changing gender requires a medical transition (gender reassignment surgery). Thereby, there was no "misgendering" done on her in the first place because the Bosnian law does not condemn such for she is legally a woman due to her biology. That is why she should medically transition.
 
Yugoslav said:
Ignored no such for she turned reactionary on me. A reactionary in the sense that she vehemently defended her idealism from the painful truth of such for it was clear that her "opposite-gender" clothing was not enough and that she looked like a funny tomboy to me. But what is there to not like about tomboys, especially when you have a soft tomboy? Sadly, tomboys are labeled as "TERFs" by the idealists because tomboys are materially confident with not wearing traditional female clothing.

Her being a tomboy would have pleased both her femininity and masculinity.
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Him. "turning reactionary" sounds an awful lot like a Marxist-Leninist way of saying "he wouldn't put up with my transphobic, misgendering bullshit".
 
Yugoslav said:
Why insult my username? The word "Yugoslav" is not inflammatory. Also, this is not a troll. None of it is a trollsome intention. It is the genuine concern of me against this Fabianite revisionism that is destroying socialism in Britain but also how other socialists in the West cater to the liberal idealism of the bourgeoisie.

As Lenin said,

"People always have been the foolish victims of deception and self-deception in politics, and they always will be until they have learnt to seek out the interests of some class or other behind allmoral, religious, political and social phrases, declarations and promises."

- The Three Sourcesand Three Component Parts of Marxism (1913)
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You being a troll is the "nice" option. If you're for real, that makes you a fucking nasty piece of shit.
 
existentialist said:
Him. "turning reactionary" sounds an awful lot like a Marxist-Leninist way of saying "he wouldn't put up with my transphobic, misgendering bullshit".
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But I did no wrong. That's the twist. I actually supported her decision to transition to a man because she really felt gender dysphoric. She's a young adult. Maybe a GoFundMe page would have helped with her transitioning into a man. Also, social transition is reactionary if it does not involve medical transition.
 
Yugoslav said:
"Cissplain", another one of those Fabianite terms I suppose?
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IF you don't know what it means, you could ask rather than sneering.

It's a portmanteau word, combining "cis" (which, with your evident expertise on trans issues, you presumably understand :rolleyes:), and (ex)plain.

Every day's a schoolday, but I suspect you're not interested in learning anything that wasn't written a century ago in your Little Red Book.
 
Yugoslav said:
But I did no wrong. That's the twist. I actually supported her decision to transition to a man because she really felt gender dysphoric. She's a young adult. Maybe a GoFundMe page would have helped with her transitioning into a man. Also, social transition is reactionary if it does not involve medical transition.
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You misgendered him. And continue to do so. And your views on medical transition aren't exactly sensitive to the feelings of anyone, particularly trans people. You're a particular kind of nasty scum.
 
existentialist said:
IF you don't know what it means, you could ask rather than sneering.

It's a portmanteau word, combining "cis" (which, with your evident expertise on trans issues, you presumably understand :rolleyes:), and (ex)plain.

Every day's a schoolday, but I suspect you're not interested in learning anything that wasn't written a century ago in your Little Red Book.
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I know what it is and I had the right to label it as revisionistic. You wonder why you're accused of revisionism, yet you are actively supporting a reactionary cause that denies medical transition because "muh social transition".
 
existentialist said:
You misgendered him. And continue to do so. And your views on medical transition aren't exactly sensitive to the feelings of anyone, particularly trans people. You're a particular kind of nasty scum.
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That is nothing but liberal bourgeois revisionism disguised as "progressive". Trans people must be addressed and their only way of betterment is medical transition.
 
Yugoslav said:
That is nothing but liberal bourgeois revisionism disguised as "progressive". Trans people must be addressed and their only way of betterment is medical transition.
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If you weren't quite so pathetic, you'd be as funny as fuck.

As it is, it's no wonder the question of whether you're actually a real human being is an understandable one.
 
existentialist said:
If you weren't quite so pathetic, you'd be as funny as fuck.

As it is, it's no wonder the question of whether you're actually a real human being is an understandable one.
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"It appears that one of the greatest obstacles to the immediate formation of a united Communist Party is presented by the disagreement on the questions of participation in Parliament and on whether the new Communist Party should affiliate to the old, trade-unionist, opportunist and social-chauvinist Labour Party, which is mostly made up of trade unions."

- Marxism and the British Labour Party
 
Yugoslav said:
Also, social transition is reactionary if it does not involve medical transition.
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so much for being critical of gender. Defending gendered terms, dress, etc etc. What if, for whatever reason, someone is not up to being able to medically transition? Must they live a reactionary life? Or should they conform to the gender norms you approve of? Or, maybe, should you get a clearer view of what Marx meant by materialism? And how he not only thought that changing our material circumstances is possible, its actually a god thing!
 
belboid said:
so much for being critical of gender. Defending gendered terms, dress, etc etc. What if, for whatever reason, someone is not up to being able to medically transition? Must they live a reactionary life? Or should they conform to the gender norms you approve of? Or, maybe, should you get a clearer view of what Marx meant by materialism? And how he not only thought that changing our material circumstances is possible, its actually a god thing!
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Financial problems? No worry. Free healthcare and the vanguard will help with it. Living in a bourgeois state? A GoFundMe will help them medically transition.

The only reactionary thing is their lack of gratitude to the material conditions being satisfying for their transition.
 
I'm fine with having fun with this Fabianite forum. All I know is, that regardless of whether this is British or American, the West seems to be commonly united against Marxism-Leninism and is in common favor of bourgeois liberal reformism.
 
Yugoslav said:
Ignored no such for she turned reactionary on me. A reactionary in the sense that she vehemently defended her idealism from the painful truth of such for it was clear that her "opposite-gender" clothing was not enough and that she looked like a funny tomboy to me. But what is there to not like about tomboys, especially when you have a soft tomboy? Sadly, tomboys are labeled as "TERFs" by the idealists because tomboys are materially confident with not wearing traditional female clothing.

Her being a tomboy would have pleased both her femininity and masculinity.
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Seriously. What the fuck are you - or your mainframe - waffling on about here?
 
Yugoslav said:
But I did no wrong. That's the twist. I actually supported her decision to transition to a man because she really felt gender dysphoric. She's a young adult. Maybe a GoFundMe page would have helped with her transitioning into a man. Also, social transition is reactionary if it does not involve medical transition.
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1. you are a transphobe
2. you are mansplaining and cissplaining the trans experience
3. you are speaking over trans people
4. you are speaking over people who understand this
 
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