Gaza under attack yet again.
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scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
I strongly disagree, 400K-1.2million deaths, 2-tier health system, program of cultural genocide, torture, murder, mass Han and Hui 'Sinification' settler program etc etc - but will leave this for now, and start another thread if I get the time - so as not to detract from the focus of this one. I am by no means attempting to absolve the Israeli state of its own war crimes (as my posts upthread indicate)...
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
http://www.salon.com/2014/07/24/isr...obs/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Wtf?? There's nothing wrong with going topless etc but wtf is going on in that society? I remember a few years ago there was that 'babes of the IDF' website too. Wtaf?
Wtf?? There's nothing wrong with going topless etc but wtf is going on in that society? I remember a few years ago there was that 'babes of the IDF' website too. Wtaf?
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
There is a 'Spring Break' like element to a lot of this, I even read one article about how on 'Birth Right' tours while Gaza is being bombed the number of people fucking each other has gone up. It might be a typical enough human reaction to panic but factoring in the disparity between both sides and the number of dead on the Palestinian side and number of those who are just kids... I find it absolutely grotesque.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Those birth right tour organizers have blood on their hands, both Jewish and Palestinian, there has just been some news about an American guy who was killed in Gaza after joining the IDF after a birth right tour. I am so glad that I have not been on one, nor will ever go.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Gazans need to check their privilege
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Now 50 IDF reservists are refusing to serve in this war:
http://forward.com/articles/202671/-israeli-reservists-refuse-to-serve-in-gaza-war/
http://forward.com/articles/202671/-israeli-reservists-refuse-to-serve-in-gaza-war/
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
The headlines in that paper are very interesting, usually it is relied on to be quite pro Zionist.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
On the other hand applications to go on these tours are down by about 40%.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Wasn't it a yiddish-language socialist paper originally?
not a liar
New Member
screaming at tv news of children dying and in pain and feel what the f????
scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
Just caught the end of a discussion on Radio 4, a couple of journalists interviewed about the impact of photos made available via phones, tablets, social media etc - and whether the more graphic scenes of e.g. the aftermath of the Malaysian airline crash or IDF artillery attacks might lead to a sort of shock fatigue.
One of the journalists was arguing, on the contrary, the increasing prevalance of on-the-spot photos showing the real impact of IDF attacks on civilians, hospitals, schools etc only served to make IDF spokespersons look increasingly foolish, and to be liars.
One of the journalists was arguing, on the contrary, the increasing prevalance of on-the-spot photos showing the real impact of IDF attacks on civilians, hospitals, schools etc only served to make IDF spokespersons look increasingly foolish, and to be liars.
Israel surely cannot turn back from this, even if the neocon wankers in america continue to support them.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Cannot turn back from what? From the military operation? Or the political ends they hope to achieve? Why not? And why would continued US support mean they would be more likely to turn back from either?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you want the zionist entity to see it through to the bitter end?
teqniq
DisMembered
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
hipipol
Peckham Wry
It need the Yanks to change course
UN compounds where women and children were sheltering have been attacked by the IDF before - all the various Lebanese "incursions" - less likely now that Hizbollah are well tooled up - as for massacres, Sabra and Shatila didn't halt anything - it may even have played a part in getting Sharon elected.
Israel is pretty much a militarist state with the full complicity of the population
Unless the Yanks stop its "Iron Dome" of blocking all censure at the UN and stops its free flowing money spigot, nothing will change
teqniq
DisMembered
I dunno which to be shocked at most, that they come out with stuff like this in the first place or that they feel comfortable coming out with it on the net for all to see.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
why ',america' in the first and 'americans' in the second?
hipipol
Peckham Wry
Many have grown up in a Gaza that has always been like this
"You understand well enough what slavery is, but freedom you have never experienced, so you do not know if it tastes sweet or bitter. If you ever did come to experience it, you would advise us to fight for it not with spears only, but with axes too." - Herodotus
2000 years have passed since that was written
"We will never surrender"
Fat boy winnie sums up what all peeps under attack think
"You understand well enough what slavery is, but freedom you have never experienced, so you do not know if it tastes sweet or bitter. If you ever did come to experience it, you would advise us to fight for it not with spears only, but with axes too." - Herodotus
2000 years have passed since that was written
"We will never surrender"
Fat boy winnie sums up what all peeps under attack think
America and Israel are two sides of the same coin, both born from extreme religious ideologies. Both share disdain for 'natives'. America's version of christianity requires an Israel and temple mount for Jesus's apparent second coming (rapturists).
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