Fuck the Tory government

[Maurice Picarda]

Fucks sake, its paint, paint washes off.

Still an extraordinary choice of monument to deface. Why did no one on the demo suggest that the protestor in question choose something else?

 

[Pickman's model]

Still an extraordinary choice of monument to deface. Why did no one on the demo suggest that the protestor in question choose something else?

i would like to suggest you stop posting here.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Still an extraordinary choice of monument to deface. Why did no one on the demo suggest that the protestor in question choose something else?

The area is crammed with war memorials, most likely the idiot just wanted somewhere out of police sight that wasn't fenced off and if he'd had any mates with him not focused on the cops they'd have slapped him around the head for being an idiot.

 

[Wilf]

he was an mp until just the other day.

... and key player in the Scottish Ref.

 

[Andrew Hertford]

you haven't looked at the memorial, have you?

seems fairly unequivocal: ALL the women, not just the british. not just the allied.

Putting aside your ignorance about the memorial, what's your point exactly? Are you trying to defend spraying 'fuck the tories' on it?

Fucks sake, its paint, paint washes off.

So do swastikas painted on the sides of Mosques and Synagogues wash off. So what's you point?

 

[Pickman's model]

Putting aside your ignorance about the memorial, what's your point exactly? Are you trying to defend spraying 'fuck the tories' on it?

i am pointing out that the memorial says nothing about women who died fighting fascism. and you only demonstrate your stupidity when you suggest i'm doing something which it's clear i haven't.

 

[Artaxerxes]

So do swastikas painted on the sides of Mosques and Synagogues wash off. So what's you point?

Whats yours?

 

[Pickman's model]

Whats yours?

his point is he's a twat.

 

[Wilf]

Derail: a very quick google doesn't tell me what Brown's post parliament plans are. A tiny, naive part of me hopes it won't be quite as grubby as his granita buddy tony blair, but we'll see. He's been the MP with the highest outside earnings since resigning as MP, but claims to have passed it on to charities. Suspect the lure of 'advising the board of..' will get too strong for him in the end.

 

[bi0boy]

It's a lump of stone ffs.

Or is it bronze?

 

[co-op]

Is there any evidence that it might be a provocateur? Have there been any confirmed examples of provocateurs doing similar in the UK before?

I guess confirming these things is pretty tricky but there's almost direct form for this stunt in the defacing of the cenotaph during the 2000 Reclaim The Streets, when the Daily Mirror launched a massive "FIND THESE SCUM!" style front page campaign with a load of photos of people doing it yet no one was ever found - despite at least one person being prosecuted later for defacing the Churchill statue (the mohican + blood stained mouth). The DM strangely dropped its campaign 2 days later and the whole thing quietly dropped out of the media. Always seemed likely to be agents provocateur to me.

 

[sunnysidedown]

Putting aside your ignorance about the memorial, what's your point exactly? Are you trying to defend spraying 'fuck the tories' on it?



So do swastikas painted on the sides of Mosques and Synagogues wash off. So what's you point?

were you this angry about the lack of this monument before 2005, when it was built?

 

[Wilf]

AH - it was a dickish thing to do, but comparing it to swastikas on Mosques is fucking silly. Misplaced though it was, the 'fuck the Tories' was unrelated to the memorial, the memorial was just a surface (perhaps an 'official surface' but still just a surface). Swastikas on Mosques is aimed at the Mosque. Got it?

 

[Pickman's model]

Derail: a very quick google doesn't tell me what Brown's post parliament plans are. A tiny, naive part of me hopes it won't be quite as grubby as his granita buddy tony blair, but we'll see. He's been the MP with the highest outside earnings since resigning as MP, but claims to have passed it on to charities. Suspect the lure of 'advising the board of..' will get too strong for him in the end.

Since resigning as prime minister and Labour leader, Mr Brown has focused on charity work and his role as United Nations special envoy for global education.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30277709

 

[Pickman's model]

were you this angry about the lack of this monument before 2005, when it was built?

he exists in a constant froth of unrequited outrage

 

[Wilf]

were you this angry about the lack of this monument before 2005, when it was built?

I'm sure he was. In fact he's already chipping away at the marble to construct a Victims of Atos memorial.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm sure he was. In fact he's already chipping away at the marble to construct a Victims of Atos memorial.

if there was such a memorial he would be busy chipping away at it

 

[Wilf]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30277709

So, you're suggesting I should have looked at another source than Wikipedia?

 

[butchersapron]

I guess confirming these things is pretty tricky but there's almost direct form for this stunt in the defacing of the cenotaph during the 2000 Reclaim The Streets, when the Daily Mirror launched a massive "FIND THESE SCUM!" style front page campaign with a load of photos of people doing it yet no one was ever found - despite at least one person being prosecuted later for defacing the Churchill statue (the mohican + blood stained mouth). The DM strangely dropped its campaign 2 days later and the whole thing quietly dropped out of the media. Always seemed likely to be agents provocateur to me.

Or Turkish Stalinists.

 

[Andrew Hertford]

i am pointing out that the memorial says nothing about women who died fighting fascism. and you only demonstrate your stupidity when you suggest i'm doing something which it's clear i haven't.

You haven't looked at the memorial have you? The inscription reads: 'This monument was raised to commemorate the vital work done by over Seven Million Women during World War II. - National Heritage Memorial Fund'.

So again... what is your point?

Whats yours?

My point is that it's as bad as spraying a swastika or 'EDL' on a Mosque or Synagogue, so saying that it doesn't matter because it's only paint is both crass and stupid.

 

[Pickman's model]

You haven't looked at the memorial have you? The inscription reads: 'This monument was raised to commemorate the vital work done by over Seven Million Women during World War II. - National Heritage Memorial Fund'.

that doesn't undermine my point one iota.

have you considered engaging brain?

 

[co-op]

Or Turkish Stalinists.

Got a link?

 

[Artaxerxes]

My point is that it's as bad as spraying a swastika or 'EDL' on a Mosque or Synagogue, so saying that it doesn't matter because it's only paint is both crass and stupid.

Except its not, one is a symptom of hatred towards those who use the building and the living, the other is stupidity or ignorance.

If he'd written "FUCK THE WOMEN OF WW2, CUNTS THE LOT OF EM!" then it'd be the same.

 

[Wilf]

My point is that it's as bad as spraying a swastika or 'EDL' on a Mosque or Synagogue, so saying that it doesn't matter because it's only paint is both crass and stupid.

You seem to be arguing that a valid political statement on an unconnected surface is as bad as a racist statement deliberately targeted on a mosque/synagogue. Unless you are reduced to arguing it's all just 'paint on a thing' - are you, are you really arguing that?

 

[butchersapron]

Got a link?

Nope!

 

[butchersapron]

No one say Kristallnacht.

 

[teqniq]

bless you

 

[co-op]

Nope!

Fair enough. I'll just have to go and work my extensive network of contacts amongst Turkish Stalinists. I'd have thought they might have seen the cenotaph as a little bit soviet communism.

 

[butchersapron]

Fair enough. I'll just have to go and work my extensive network of contacts amongst Turkish Stalinists. I'd have thought they might have seen the cenotaph as a little bit soviet communism.

Devious alien Communists.

 

[co-op]

Slightly islamic communists.