Feminism - where are the threads?
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JudithB
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The retweet of Urban75
It's a shame this has happened because this was a good thread. It's a good question where the feminism threads are. I did try to start a feminism thread a little while ago but it was closed down which nobody commented on at the time.
I do think there was a problem with the most feminism discussion being on a thread in parenting which is that it's exclusionary of at least say people with a chronic illness that means they don't have children. Not that it's not a great place to have feminist discussions but I don't think it's ideal as the only space.
I haven't commented much on the feminist threads as they move quite fast so I struggle to wrap my head around and indeed this thread has moved on now already.
Also I was sulking
I do think there was a problem with the most feminism discussion being on a thread in parenting which is that it's exclusionary of at least say people with a chronic illness that means they don't have children. Not that it's not a great place to have feminist discussions but I don't think it's ideal as the only space.
I haven't commented much on the feminist threads as they move quite fast so I struggle to wrap my head around and indeed this thread has moved on now already.
Also I was sulking
JudithB
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Why are women scared of saying feminism is for females? Should I delete and rephrase?
There appear to be a lot of females who are scared to say actually I want to focus on women and women's right even if that makes male born persons uncomfortable.
colacubes
Mr Hot Cookie
Uncalled for. I can see you obviously feel angry about responses to other threads but I think you taking your anger out on others here when challenged reasonably isn’t helpful to you, anyone else, or the thread in general which had until now been robust, interesting, but not delved into unpleasantness.
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
It really wasn't intended (I don't think) to be a feminist thread as such. It sort of grew organically and is mutually supportive. You'd be very, very welcome. Not everyone there has kids. And it's open to men, women, anyone really as long as everyone is respectful. We don't really do robust and confrontational, that's not really its flavour.It's a shame this has happened because this was a good thread. It's a good question where the feminism threads are. I did try to start a feminism thread a little while ago but it was closed down which nobody commented on at the time.
I do think there was a problem with the most feminism discussion being on a thread in parenting which is that it's exclusionary of at least say people with a chronic illness that means they don't have children. Not that it's not a great place to have feminist discussions but I don't think it's ideal as the only space.
I haven't commented much on the feminist threads as they move quite fast so I struggle to wrap my head around and indeed this thread has moved on now already.
Also I was sulking
I mean, if you sulk you might end up on the naughty step though
Manter
Lunch Mob
The parenting forum is feminist out of necessity and there are people childless though choice and involuntarily who are in there, both regularly and sporadically. You’re more than welcome if you’re interested- but it’s like a long interesting chat between intelligent and thoughtful people that occasionally breaks into child chat. Parenting is where we started but it’s not what we mostly chat about.It's a shame this has happened because this was a good thread. It's a good question where the feminism threads are. I did try to start a feminism thread a little while ago but it was closed down which nobody commented on at the time.
I do think there was a problem with the most feminism discussion being on a thread in parenting which is that it's exclusionary of at least say people with a chronic illness that means they don't have children. Not that it's not a great place to have feminist discussions but I don't think it's ideal as the only space.
I haven't commented much on the feminist threads as they move quite fast so I struggle to wrap my head around and indeed this thread has moved on now already.
Also I was sulking
But we’re not ‘discussing feminism’- we’re living it and working through its kinks and so on on a day by day basis. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that some of the most interesting contributions on the feminist threads are from men who spend a lot of time on the parenting threads
(And yes I think feminist theory etc threads are a good thing, even if they have flushed out some terrifying attitudes)
JudithB
Well-Known Member
Of course, I should just be nice
Fuck off
I started this thread and I repeat again, that if there wasn't a need for threads about the lived experiences of women recognised as philosophical discussions then there would not have been the spawning of threads on this site.
Females read this thread and felt energised. They are speaking in their dozens, tens of dozens.
Yes I am angry and the reasons for my anger should be debatable, but they aren't. And if I want to feel and express anger who are you to tell me to be quiet.
Hear me roar sweetheart and dont ever tell a woman to be be nice again
colacubes
Mr Hot Cookie
The parenting forum is feminist out of necessity and there are people childless though choice and involuntarily who are in there, both regularly and sporadically. You’re more than welcome if you’re interested- but it’s like a long interesting chat between intelligent and thoughtful people that occasionally breaks into child chat. Parenting is where we started but it’s not what we mostly chat about.
But we’re not ‘discussing feminism’- we’re living it and working through its kinks and so on on a day by day basis. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that some of the most interesting contributions on the feminist threads are from men who spend a lot of time on the parenting threads
(And yes I think feminist theory etc threads are a good thing, even if they have flushed out some terrifying attitudes)
As a childless infertile woman I endorse this statement. I don’t post regularly but feel I can absolutely drop in when I want to.
colacubes
Mr Hot Cookie
Oh fuck off yourself and jog on with your holier than thou shite
I was talking about getting to know people over time despite conflict and the care that develops towards people when you get to know them not that we need to be pussyfooting around in discussions.
Manter
Lunch Mob
And then we’ll discuss whether the naughty step works, general attitudes to discipline, take a detour into bondage, then discuss how much sex we’re having, then whether sex is better or worse or just different after kids, then whether our lives would have been better without kids....It really wasn't intended (I don't think) to be a feminist thread as such. It sort of grew organically and is mutually supportive. You'd be very, very welcome. Not everyone there has kids. And it's open to men, women, anyone really as long as everyone is respectful. We don't really do robust and confrontational, that's not really its flavour.
I mean, if you sulk you might end up on the naughty step though
JudithB
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But we are in the P&P threads. You are ignoring the reputation of them and suddenly asking me as a woman to be nicer in some way. Do you hold the men who posts threads to the same standards?
JudithB
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No you fuck offOh fuck off yourself and jog on with your holier than thou shite
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
I think if they'd used the word sweetheart they'd have been torn limb from limb.
FabricLiveBaby!
Live Baby Fabric!
Well I'd like to thank Judith for starting the threads.
They were needed and necessary, and yes it's no surprise that this thread ended up like this. It's a shame cuz until now it's been really nice hearing about women's experiences and feeling kinship *despite our differences*.
Can't happen to women though.
Send in the MRAs and trolls.
Nice job Urbanites
They were needed and necessary, and yes it's no surprise that this thread ended up like this. It's a shame cuz until now it's been really nice hearing about women's experiences and feeling kinship *despite our differences*.
Can't happen to women though.
Send in the MRAs and trolls.
Nice job Urbanites
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
It was all going so well. Oh dear.
Perhaps the few pages answer the OP question - that all feminist threads just end in acrimony or in the bin.
Perhaps the few pages answer the OP question - that all feminist threads just end in acrimony or in the bin.
What a weird post. I don't expect anything from you, I think you were out of order telling smokedout to fuck off out of your thread. That's not challenging or aggressive argument, that's just plain hostility.
It really wasn't intended (I don't think) to be a feminist thread as such. It sort of grew organically and is mutually supportive. You'd be very, very welcome. Not everyone there has kids. And it's open to men, women, anyone really as long as everyone is respectful. We don't really do robust and confrontational, that's not really its flavour.
I mean, if you sulk you might end up on the naughty step though
Actually, there is conflict there too, we don't always agree and sometimes piss each other off, but it's not brought out into the open very often. I'm not sure if that's a good thing.
Is there any reason why you haven't challenged the hostility of, say, pengaleng or Pickman's in this or related threads?
FabricLiveBaby!
Live Baby Fabric!
It's called "trashing" apparently.
The woman who wrote the book "invisible women" mentioned it on twitter today and I think it's quite relevant to what's going on in this thread (and eventually all feminist threads)
The woman who wrote the book "invisible women" mentioned it on twitter today and I think it's quite relevant to what's going on in this thread (and eventually all feminist threads)
FabricLiveBaby!
Live Baby Fabric!
Well, I have pengaleng on ignore because of their constant hostility.
Fair point.
The reason I said what I said was because when there's been hostility to me and nobody said anything it feels really shit. It's like a bullying dynamic when there are silent bystanders, the bully expressing the aggression on behalf of the group and it makes me feel uncomfortable. I've pointed out plenty of times when I think someone is being treated unfairly, there's nothing special about this. Not sure why I bother though it must be said.
Treacle Toes
Time
It was...but here we are watching the fallout of the same old cut and run in with stink bombs nonsense and wait for a reaction bullshit that we are all so familiar with.
Yes, JudithB has strong opinions that not everyone agrees with however she has been baited and and wound up over days and far too FEW people have said anything about that IMO. It's all too easy to come in and tell HER what she is doing wrong and expect her to conform to the warped personality culture and fear of long standing urban posters and their cheerleaders.
Treacle Toes
Time
I think on this because you have certain people on ignore you may be missing the dynamics of some of this stuff being played out.
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