F1 2021

[a_chap]

For the "brake test" incident?

Keep in mind that simply lifting off the accelerator makes the car "brake" at about 1G on the straight. Unexpectedly not accelerating was one of Senna's tricks to prevent people overtaking.


Also worth keeping in mind that If Max and Lewis both DNF next weekend, then Verstappen will win the World Championship on race victories... (some might say that that was also one of Senna's tactics)

 

[Ax^]

massi needs to lose his job over this year


he is not up to it

 

[Limejuice]

Keep in mind that simply lifting off the accelerator makes the car "brake" at about 1G on the straight.

Good point. Well made.

 

[Lord Camomile]

the move could of been completed a lot easier

Max was told to let him by but made it as difficult as possible


its gamemanship

I get that it's fine margins and all drivers/teams basically do whatever they can to eke out any and all advantages they can, but it does seem rather disingenuous to "give a place back" in a manner that all but guarantees you'll essentially retain the place in the very same move.

But I know mine is an attitude not built for professional sports

 

[a_chap]

massi needs to lose his job over this year


he is not up to it

To be fair to him, he had an almost impossible task today.

For what it's worth (i.e. nothing) my opinion is that today he did as good a job as anyone could.

 

[1%er]

To be fair to him, he had an almost impossible task today.

For what it's worth (i.e. nothing) my opinion is that today he did as good a job as anyone could.

Race contral isn't just the race driector, he is the boss but he has a team there with him

 

[Ax^]

if he had been clearer in previous races about what the rules were


today would not of happened

bargining with teams at the 2nd race before the end of the season is not a good luck

 

[spitfire]

PDR doesn't like LH does he.

 

[a_chap]

Race contral isn't just the race driector

Would it have been better if he'd passed all decisions to the Stewards?

They'd still have been racing now...

 

[Limejuice]

Yes that's the incedent, but the race control really fucked this race up, Max was clearly told but was Lewis? It seems not

Overall, I think this season has been a poor one for the stewards and the race director.

Seriously, would Charlie Whiting have let this happen? No. Mr Masi is far too intrusive. (Ditto the stewards.)

 

[Ax^]

I get that it's fine margins and all drivers/teams basically do whatever they can to eke out any and all advantages they can, but it does seem rather disingenuous to "give a place back" in a manner that all but guarantees you'll essentially retain the place in the very same move.

But I know mine is an attitude not built for professional sports

have that idea myself but i'll take all the drivers opinion from the last race

Race control left a grey area that Red Bull are operating in

thats not something that should be acceptable

 

[1%er]

Would it have been better if he'd passed all decisions to the Stewards?

They'd still have been racing now...

Not all but some, clearly the stewards beleave he should have as they looked into 2 or 3 of the incidents. He should have used his team, that is what they are there for

 

[a_chap]

He should have used his team, that is what they are there for

How do you know he didn't?

 

[Lord Camomile]

PDR doesn't like LH does he.

I've never even heard him talk but I'm still aware that this is the general opinion of his opinion, it's seemingly that apparent

 

[1%er]

How do you know he didn't?

I'm sure he did that is why I said race controll fucked this race up and didn't just blame the controller

 

[Ax^]

Max drives like Schumi

Hill and PDR saying Lewis is wary of it


no Shit

 

[a_chap]

I'm sure he did that is why I said race controll fucked this race up and didn't just blame the controller

Ah, the penny drops.

Sorry.

(still exhausted after the GP)

 

[Ax^]

my feeling is we are going back toward the 80's and 90's in regard to how aggressive f1 drivers can be

this year is setting it up

we just need more intruction from race control and the FIA about what is acceptable

 

[Ax^]

Hill to Horner "that was not brazil , see i'm fair "

now thats trolling

 

[Lord Camomile]

Verstappen is summoned to the stewards for an alleged breach of Breach of Article 2 (d) Chapter IV Appendix L of the FIA International Sporting Code.

This says: "Causing a collision. Repetition of serious mistakes or the appearance of a lack of control over the car (such as leaving the track) will be reported to the Stewards and may entail the imposition of penalties up to and including the exclusion of any driver concerned."

 

[1%er]

OK guys we are out of here, I'm off to claim my free dinner but I can't gloat as if Max wins next week I get stick for months

 

[1927]

Keep in mind that simply lifting off the accelerator makes the car "brake" at about 1G on the straight. Unexpectedly not accelerating was one of Senna's tricks to prevent people overtaking.


Also worth keeping in mind that If Max and Lewis both DNF next weekend, then Verstappen will win the World Championship on race victories... (some might say that that was also one of Senna's tactics)

Senna wasn't the only one to use that tactic, didnt Prost do it to Mansell once? And Schumacher on Hill?

 

[Ax^]

well the stewards are a seperate body from race control

they taken umbrigide in the first restart when max ran out of road and can back on track unsafely



people should not slag of the race steward team on the track, they are an independance unpolitical body
made up by volunteers

just their because of personal passion for the sport

 

[Ax^]

Senna wasn't the only one to use that tactic, didnt Prost do it to Mansell once? And Schumacher on Hill?

so a repeat of the start of suzuka 1990 is a good way to end the season

 

[Lord Camomile]

Oh aye, sorry, the wasn't exactly questioning, more "oh-ho, there might be more drama/controversy incoming".

 

[Lord Camomile]

No doubt Netflix were following Aston Martin or something this weekend, so might get a couple of minutes of Ham/Ver.

10 episode series. Lol

 

[Ax^]

oddly my view point in Mazaspin has gotten better over this weekend

he is more than likely about the same level as stroll

a daddy boy's pay driver but he does not complain and shows respect to other drivers when needed

 

[spitfire]

Abu Dhabi Ding Dong.

 

[spitfire]

Limejuice what's the times for next week?

Sorry for being pushy but I need to let my child know if I'm going to her BMX race or not.

 

[MrCurry]

Limejuice what's the times for next week?

Sorry for being pushy but I need to let my child know if I'm going to her BMX race or not.

Normally a 2pm U.K. start iirc, but Google seems to be saying 1pm this year