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twistedAM said:
Nah.

It'll all be puns on Rooney; like the aforementioned Boo-ney and maybe Roo-tten.

Bet subs are having a discussion about how much shit they'd get if they went for Crapello.
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Probly.

I think they actually used the 'mustafa' one after england managed to draw 0-0 in a freindly away to saudi arabia back in robson's day.
 
I don't think we strung together more than 3 attacking touches of the ball in a row all night. It was if they were completely new to the game of football. All the shots were from well outside the box, and right at the keeper. It was really strange to watch.
 
I am mystified that Gerrard plays any where but behind the striker. Might not have 2 out and out strikers but with Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard there are three players who can put it into the next like strikers just also play midfield.

Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard and Wayne Rooney could barely keep the ball at their feet at times.

Perhaps they should choose lesser players keen to do well and just 2 of the top stars?

I kinda gave up with this team after failing to qualify for the Euro's. On paper its a great team perhaps the best England have had in ages, but on the pitch its rarely more than mediocre, no matter the manager.
 
If any more evidence were needed that England are a second rate team in a world class competition then I don't know what it is. But our insularity will still make it seem that we have some of the best players in the world who haven't quite gelled yet. Amazing.
 
Having fish 'n chips tonight in mourning. Because our neighbourhood English chippie is actually good at something. If he "pulls a Rooney" on my tea, that's it we're fucking done...
 
FFS, I've even woken up annoyed and agitated at this utter shambles.

Someone ^ mentioned words like 'Graeme Taylor' and 'Norway' and it really was a debacle of that magnitude. This surpasses the frustration at the naivety and ignorance of King Kev and the worst of media-emasculated Eriksson. It is just so fucking annoying.

God fucking help me, I don't want to think about this all day.
 
London_Calling said:
FFS, I've even woken up annoyed and agitated at this utter shambles.

Someone ^ mentioned words like 'Graeme Taylor' and 'Norway' and it really was a debacle of that magnitude. This surpasses the frustration at the naivety and ignorance of King Kev and the worst of media-emasculated Eriksson. It is just so fucking annoying.

God fucking help me, I don't want to think about this all day.
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I couldn't face talking about it on this thread yesterday beyond a few words, but I think my few words at the time summed it up.

Worst. England team. Ever.

Barry is always an 8/10, except when he's 7/10, hey Keegan? What about Gerrard? Because he was 2/10 at most yesterday. He gave one of the worst performances I've ever seen in an England shirt. Bring back Carlton Palmer.

Of the starters, Heskey was solid but uninspiring and I thought Cashley was actually pretty good -- looked like the only player that really had any ideas at all. The rest were rubbish. Carragher -- Oh. My. God. Lennon -- invisible. Lampard -- wtf? Johnson -- let's just whack it into the defenders again, eh? Rooney -- was he actually playing?

I also mentioned during the match that it reminded me of the Graham Taylor game against Norway, after which I couldn't be bothered with England at all until Taylor was sacked (in retrospect, actually, that was a bloody good Norway side, but I digress).

But I think this was worse even than that. If I could, I'd get rid of all of them apart from A. Cole for the next match. And James, I suppose, who did OK.
 
Kaka Tim said:
I think you have to blame capello.

His system worled for the qualifiers but it seems that the team spending time together and playing more matches has - bizzarely - led to them getting more and more disjointed and demoralised.

This bollocks about only telling the players whose playing two hours before - surely you need a settled tema that knows what its doing - espcially at the back.

And the faliure to get anything except mediocrity out of rooney is mystifying - why doesn't he play him up front like he does for man u? play cole, or gerrard behind. Surely as our only world class forward we should build the team around him.

The reliance on heskey means that in both wc games england just hoof it up to emile which occaisinly leads to a knock on (gerrards goal) or a corner but usually leads to england losing possesion and it coming striaght back at us. When heskey does get clear he routinely hits it striaght at the keeper or tries to play in rooney or gerrard - and fails.

its painful to watch. Its like pub football.

Why cant they pass the fucking ball around, control possesion. work openings - JUST PLAY PROPER FUCKING FOOTBALL YOU CUNTS!!!

I dont know wether its the shit system, poor morale, rooneys on his period, divisons in the camp or a manager who has taken leave of his senses but something is very badly wrong with this england team.

It must be the vuvuzelas ....
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Oddly enough, I actually wrote an open letter to Don Fabio last night on exactly the same thing. Honestly! Am hoping it gets sent around the wires enough for the press or someone to get it to him :) Then *I* can be manager :cool:

http://theboymitchell.com/an-open-letter-to-fabio-capello/
 
Are we allowed to say it was shit this time then, or does it mean we're all just willy waving like the last game? :D


Good fucking lord we were shit. Looking forward to wednesday, I can take the fucking flags down.
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jun/19/world-cup-2010-wayne-rooney-england-algeria

England's World Cup descended into frustration last night as a furious supporter confronted David Beckham in the dressing room, moments after a sarcastic Wayne Rooney had questioned the loyalty of the travelling fans as he left the pitch.
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That's a bit rich. One thing that stood out for me in the second half was how he seemed to assume things weren't going to work for him. His first touch normally wasn't quite right and he didn't bother to try to recover the ball.

Might have positive effect, though. They haven't looked it yet but Gerrard, Rooney, Lampard amongst others are world class. Might be the kick in the arse they need. I thought agricola's link was unfair, though, Malawi have some top players.
 
two sheds said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jun/19/world-cup-2010-wayne-rooney-england-algeria

They haven't looked it yet but Gerrard, Rooney, Lampard amongst others are world class. Might be the kick in the arse they need.
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My defination of world class means performing at the highest international level, THEY are not world class, ability is nothing without the mentality to withstand pressure, England are getting no more attention then any of the other sides, they are fucking bottlers.
Sometimes the pressure to succeed/score a goal is higher than the pressure of losing, they cannot handle it and their over paid/inflated ego's need bringing down a notch.
Must be hard to motivate someone earning 100+k a week, I guess they must think, deep down...whats the point. Useless.

Come on the Argies :)
 
I was at a pub, they were showing the England, but we ended up not watching it, just drinking outside in the garden - didn't miss much, clearly. I walked past the telly a few times - still 0-0 :D
 
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