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England local election results thread

Only one area in Wales had voting, 30 seats up for grabs, UKIP fielded a candidate in every ward but failed to win a single seat, they got 7% of the vote which compared very badly to what they got in England, but still beat the Tories who only had 6% of the vote and also won no seats although over in England the Tories still dominated in most areas where there was voting.

Wales and England politically miles apart so it seems, Wales on the left, England on the extreme right.
 
Jeezus, all these questions... :rolleyes:

If you must know, about 6 years.
Oh no questions, how dare people question you about what you've publicly said on a discussion board.

Right, so you're there long enough to have an enduring interest in the area - how are other people expressing this interest?
 
Only one area in Wales had voting, 30 seats up for grabs, UKIP fielded a candidate in every ward but failed to win a single seat, they got 7% of the vote which compared very badly to what they got in England, but still beat the Tories who only had 6% of the vote and also won no seats although over in England the Tories still dominated in most areas where there was voting.

Wales and England politically miles apart so it seems, Wales on the left, England on the extreme right.
Yes, and Anglesey now has a Socialist council. Oh no, wait
 
Oh no questions, how dare people question you about what you've publicly said on a discussion board.
It feels like everything I'm posting is being intensely scrutinised.

Right, so you're there long enough to have an enduring interest in the area - how are other people expressing this interest?
Two groups seem promising, Left Unity, and Greater Manchester Anticapitalists, plus grassroots stuff against the Bedroom Tax and benefit cuts, which have had varying levels of success.
 
It feels like everything I'm posting is being intensely scrutinised.


Two groups seem promising, Left Unity, and Greater Manchester Anticapitalists, plus grassroots stuff against the Bedroom Tax and benefit cuts, which have had varying levels of success.
Why shouldn't it be intensely scrutinised?

Maybe i asked the question wrong, what are the class doing, not what is the left doing. What is the grassroots stuff and why is it only worth a "plus"?
 
Yes, and Anglesey now has a Socialist council. Oh no, wait

Perhaps the meaning of 'independent' has been lost in translation? Perhaps in Wales it doesn't equate to mean-spirited, small government/lowtax, insular, reactionary social conservatives with a deep suspicion of 'outsiders'. No, they're obviously real leftists out there on that island.
 
Why shouldn't it be intensely scrutinised?

May be i asked the question wrong, what are the class doing, not what is the left doing. What is the grassroots stuff and why is it only worth a "plus"?
Strange as this may seem, I do not claim to speak for the entire working class. However, I, as a working class person, am just trying to get by, trying to work to resist all the attacks on me and my class wherever possible, but having to choose my battles carefully since I am liable to get frustrated and burn out. But then that's just me as an individual.
 
it is getting very unpleasant on here and i'm certain lurkers, etc are put off contributing, the abuse on Articulate for example is pathetic and mods should take note, imo.
 
No, as BA said, I'm not. Although I admit I might have been a bit naive regarding how posters treat each other (that's not to be treated as a sweeping judgement on all people whom post in P&P). I've changed a fair bit politically during my absence though

Yeah, I know, you mentioned it on a thread from earlier on - I said it because it looked like you were replying to butchers inquisition as if you were under sort of some obligation to, like your an errant schoolboy and he's the headmaster, marking your work and letting you know where you've been going wrong. This is a webforum not a court, and butchers isn't the forum police (as much as the idea must appeal to the inner-policeman buried deep inside every Anarchist I've ever met) so don't feel like you have tell anyone about where you live, what you do, and all the other pedantry.
 
it is getting very unpleasant on here and i'm certain lurkers, etc are put off contributing, the abuse on Articulate for example is pathetic and mods should take note, imo.
Hardly unpleasant, and actually pretty mild compared to some of the bunfights that have been seen on here.
 
Yeah, I know, you mentioned it on a thread from earlier on - I said it because it looked like you were replying to butchers inquisition as if you were under sort of some obligation to, like your an errant schoolboy and he's the headmaster, marking your work and letting you know where you've been going wrong. This is a webforum not a court, and butchers isn't the forum police (as much as the idea must appeal to the inner-policeman buried deep inside every Anarchist I've ever met) so don't feel like you have tell anyone about where you live, what you do, and all the other pedantry.
How nice for tom for you to hold his hand,. How presumptuous, How insulting.
 
Yeah, I know, you mentioned it on a thread from earlier on - I said it because it looked like you were replying to butchers inquisition as if you were under sort of some obligation to, like your an errant schoolboy and he's the headmaster, marking your work and letting you know where you've been going wrong. This is a webforum not a court, and butchers isn't the forum police (as much as the idea must appeal to the inner-policeman buried deep inside every Anarchist I've ever met) so don't feel like you have tell anyone about where you live, what you do, and all the other pedantry.


WAR
 
it is getting very unpleasant on here and i'm certain lurkers, etc are put off contributing, the abuse on Articulate for example is pathetic and mods should take note, imo.

The unpleasant-ness is a big part of the appeal. Like the dank in Moe's Tavern.
 
Perhaps the meaning of 'independent' has been lost in translation? Perhaps in Wales it doesn't equate to mean-spirited, small government/lowtax, insular, reactionary social conservatives with a deep suspicion of 'outsiders'. No, they're obviously real leftists out there on that island.
The last election on the island [Welsh Assembly 2011]they voted Plaid a left wing party.
 
Yeah, I know, you mentioned it on a thread from earlier on - I said it because it looked like you were replying to butchers inquisition as if you were under sort of some obligation to, like your an errant schoolboy and he's the headmaster, marking your work and letting you know where you've been going wrong. This is a webforum not a court, and butchers isn't the forum police (as much as the idea must appeal to the inner-policeman buried deep inside every Anarchist I've ever met) so don't feel like you have tell anyone about where you live, what you do, and all the other pedantry.
I am answering of my own volition (and certainly am not about to give any really personal information), because I feel (probably foolishly) that I have to "set the record straight", although I felt that it came across quite aggressively (that's not to be taking as "me taking offence"). But any more and I will just not rise to it.

DotCommunist said:
compared to 2002-2006 this place is positively chilled.
In the main I feel that too, thankfully. Also I feel that I am on more common ground with at least some of the posters on here, thanks to the various experiences that life has given me.
 
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