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Ecuador would like Julian Assange out of their embassy by the sounds of it.

cupid_stunt said:
Petty revenge?

He broke the law by breaching his bail conditions, costing taxpayers about £16m, he's frankly lucky to only have got 50 rather 52 weeks. :D
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He didn’t cost taxpayers £16million, whoever decided they needed round-the-clock police attendance at the embassy for seven years did. Was it Grayling again? Don’t see other criminals getting this kind of attention, won’t even bother coming round if you’re burgled. Not a fan of Assange but don’t see how this was justified.
 
So it sounds like its up to the home sec as to where he get's shipped to first. The more serious crime he is accused of seems to be the order of events, this being the case he'll be off to Sweden.

Could yet have 18 months of appeals and process. The amount of taxpayers money this cunt has cost us all.
 
badseed said:
That is absolutely fucked.
This thread seems more like Daily Star reader shit, tabloid sensational stories about his alleged personal hygiene.
He should absolutely face charges in Sweden but there is no way he deserves death in a US prison.
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Nope. I agree with you on the substance - yes to facing charges in Sweden, not to American extradition. But the 'sensational' stories have been an antidote to the veneration of Assange that takes place on the 'left'.
 
badseed said:
That is absolutely fucked.
This thread seems more like Daily Star reader shit, tabloid sensational stories about his alleged personal hygiene.
He should absolutely face charges in Sweden but there is no way he deserves death in a US prison.
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Where do you get 'death in a US prison' from?

The current situation has arisen precisely because he has done everything possible to avoid facing charges in Sweden
 
kebabking said:
And is it the US's fault that he's unlikely to make it to 250?

The penalties under US law for anything to do with the leaking of classified information have always been very harsh, if he didn't like the odds he should have just stuck to bad sexual etiquette....
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tbh he didn't do your actual leaking but he did publish classified info which according to the toady programme is something which if not unprecedented is something unusual
 
Pickman's model said:
tbh he didn't do your actual leaking but he did publish classified info which according to the toady programme is something which if not unprecedented is something unusual
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What he is alleged to have done is not publish the leaks, but conspired with and encouraged someone to steal classified documents. That's what will see him sent down. That is what makes him not a journalist, but a co-conspirator to the very serious crime of stealing classified documents.

I think.
 
Pickman's model said:
tbh he didn't do your actual leaking but he did publish classified info which according to the toady programme is something which if not unprecedented is something unusual
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Merely publishing it is significantly illegal, but as Bahnhof Strasse says, the allegations from the US is that he didn't just get them in the post and then publish them, he asked for them, made it clear what he was looking for, and helped both get the stuff, and to (unsuccessfully) cover the tracks of the person doing the leaking.

His position isn't far from that of a GRU officer managing an agent within an enemy organisation. When the agent gets pinged, the GRU officer would be on a plane to his new, surprise posting in Tashkent - because he and the GRU know that if he gets apprehended, he'll go down for 200 years.

The journalism thing, for me, doesn't hold because Wikileaks has never been an impartial speaker of truth unto power - it's a vehicle for an ego, and it's relationship with the Russian state is far too close for even the pretence of journalism.
 
kebabking said:
Merely publishing it is significantly illegal, but as Bahnhof Strasse says, the allegations from the US is that he didn't just get them in the post and then publish them, he asked for them, made it clear what he was looking for, and helped both get the stuff, and to (unsuccessfully) cover the tracks of the person doing the leaking.

His position isn't far from that of a GRU officer managing an agent within an enemy organisation. When the agent gets pinged, the GRU officer would be on a plane to his new, surprise posting in Tashkent - because he and the GRU know that if he gets apprehended, he'll go down for 200 years.

The journalism thing, for me, doesn't hold because Wikileaks has never been an impartial speaker of truth unto power - it's a vehicle for an ego, and it's relationship with the Russian state is far too close for even the pretence of journalism.
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i've not mentioned anything about ja and journalism, please see whether you're confusing me in this instance with someone else.
 
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