Driving Standards

[Crispy]

Not really.

M25, Chertsey to A3, one of the busiest stretches of motorway in Europe, once you have past the first two A3 signs, if a truck is in lane 2 it's fairly safe to undertake it, cos it won't be moving over. Doubly safe as it seems that the vast majority of trucks are left hand drive these days.

The lane is divided with a shorter dashed line, which means this is officially a slip road.



I still wouldn't undertake a lorry here. Your vision of the road ahead would be obstructed, and I've seen far too many twats making 3-lane changes to be sure of the lane remaining clear.

 

[platinumsage]

I undertake all the time. e.g. M25, four lanes, 10pm, not much about except for someone in a Toyota in lane 3 doing 65, I just cruise past in lane 1.

 

[Crispy]

I undertake all the time. e.g. M25, four lanes, 10pm, not much about except for someone in Toyota in lane 3 doing 65, I just cruise past in lane 1.

Good visibility, light traffic, plenty of separation, yeah that's fine.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The lane is divided with a shorter dashed line, which means this is officially a slip road.

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I still wouldn't undertake a lorry here. Your vision of the road ahead would be obstructed, and I've seen far too many twats making 3-lane changes to be sure of the lane remaining clear.

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That's only within 1/2 mile of the junction.

 

[Crispy]

That's only within 1/2 mile of the junction.

You're still putting your trust in other drivers. Even if there were chevrons between mine and the lorry's lane, I wouldn't do it.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

You're still putting your trust in other drivers. Even if there were chevrons between mine and the lorry's lane, I wouldn't do it.

Get to the purple X and you check for BMW's (always BMW's, Audis seem not to do this particular bit of bad driving)

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

On the subject of trucks, anyone noticed that the cab's number plate rarely matches the trailer these days? More often than not it will even be a different nationality, like UK trailer with Polish cab or some such combination...

 

[ska invita]

It's pretty much impossible to be undertaken unless you're driving like a twat.
Wankers thinking that overtaking lanes are for sitting in at 65mph are the problem. If someone can undertake you, you're probably in the wrong lane, and should have your car confiscated and crushed.

65mph? your living on a different planet - undertaking the fast lane happens in hte 70-80 mph range, and speed often isnt the issue, if theres congestion and people have to drive carefully at the speed of the lane theres always some excepotional cunt who thinks they can weave through at wank-speed
i do drive around essex and kent a lot so this might have something to do with it

 

[Saul Goodman]

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It seems to be a London thing.

 

[Crispy]

To be fair, they've all just overtaken this lorry behind

 

[Saul Goodman]

65mph? your living on a different planet - undertaking the fast lane happens in hte 70-80 mph range, and speed often isnt the issue, if theres congestion and people have to drive carefully at the speed of the lane theres always some excepotional cunt who thinks they can weave through at wank-speed
i do drive around essex and kent a lot so this might have something to do with it

Whatever speed they're doing. It's people sitting in overtaking lanes, saying to themselves in a Victor Meldrew voice "I'm at the speed limit. They can wait behind me". Those people should have their license revoked and their cars confiscated and crushed.

 

[mauvais]

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It seems to be a London thing.

Not to be the defender of middle lane morons, but in this photo:

(a) if the traffic in the leftmost lane for the A3 was stopped or travelling significantly slower than M25 L1, I would stay out of the latter - too many idiots prone to diving out into a free flowing lane.

and

(b) you can't be sure anyone in M25 L3 is a cunt because they might be overtaking MLMs

 

[Saul Goodman]

To be fair, they've all just overtaken this lorry behind

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Even if that is the case, they're still sat in the overtaking lanes a mile down the road. Once you pass someone you should immediately move back into the nearside lane. There's no excuse to be sat in the overtaking lanes when the inside lane is empty.

 

[hash tag]

I get that, but have you ever looked at an artic? If you look carefully, the invariably have a different number plate on the tractor from the trailer because they are so interchangeable and I guess the technology could be different.
For solid lorry's a great idea though.

On the subject of trucks, anyone noticed that the cab's number plate rarely matches the trailer these days? More often than not it will even be a different nationality, like UK trailer with Polish cab or some such combination...

Errr yes

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Even if that is the case, they're still sat in the overtaking lanes a mile down the road. Once you pass someone you should immediately move back into the nearside lane. There's no excuse to be sat in the overtaking lanes when the inside lane is empty, unless driving a big, powerful Audi

ftfy

 

[chemn]

All undertaking is really dangerous (not to undermine your point)

At high speed with no room to spare in heavy traffic = more dangerous

 

[platinumsage]

Even if that is the case, they're still sat in the overtaking lanes a mile down the road. Once you pass someone you should immediately move back into the nearside lane. There's no excuse to be sat in the overtaking lanes when the inside lane is empty.

No, in this case there’s the disease that causes people to sit in the left lane when the want to stay on the motorway, and then move over in a panic without checking their mirrors first. The best defence is to keep lane one clear for them, until the armco barrier physically keeps them from rejoining.

 

[Saul Goodman]

No, in this case there’s the disease that causes people to sit in the left lane when the want to stay on the motorway, and then move over in a panic without checking their mirrors first. The best defence is to keep lane one clear for them, until the armco barrier physically keeps them from rejoining.

It's definitely a London thing. I've driven hundreds of thousands of miles in the UK, and never experienced driving like I did in London. They have approximately zero lane dicipline.

 

[T & P]

All of this bitterness and recriminations could be avoided if we adopted the every-cunt-for-himself freeway system they have in the US

 

[Marty1]

She needs all that space to get her hairdressing gear in and out of the car.

It was a woman driver - I followed her in as I had a delivery. She was fumbling for her door keys as I delivered to the house next door - she looked a little sheepish as she knew I’d just watched her brazenly park across two spaces.

 

[Badgers]

Children and parents injured after car mounts pavement outside school

Witnesses described seeing a boy 'covered in blood' while other children 'begged' for the emergency services to arrive.

metro.co.uk

 

[hash tag]

Just around the corner from me. I was waiting before saying anything as no arrests, no mention of age, distractions, speeding...if its the road i think it is, it has a lot of speed humps and will be a 20 limit.

 

[T & P]

Examples like that are of course appalling, but really awful individual driving incidents out of a pool of 33 million UK drivers are no more indicative of the average driving standards among the general population in this country than Shannon Matthews is of parenting standards.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Way to go, Mr school bus driver.

 

[Argonia]

Amazing that none of the children died looking at those pictures.

 

[hash tag]

This is impressive - not talking on a phone while driving, texting or whatever, not even watching a film; classy

Councillor 'drove lorry during Zoom meeting' claim investigated

Footage appears to show David Brown attempting to respond to questions and take part in a vote.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[mx wcfc]

Way to go, Mr school bus driver.

The local telly news ran a long report - it's not looking good for the driver. The kids told him he was going the wrong way. He then stopped in front of the bridge, before accelerating forwards again.

It is damned lucky no one was killed or very seriously hurt.

 

[T & P]

He must be a James Bond fan...

 

[2hats]

This is impressive - not talking on a phone while driving, texting or whatever, not even watching a film; classy

Councillor 'drove lorry during Zoom meeting' claim investigated

Footage appears to show David Brown attempting to respond to questions and take part in a vote.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I disagree with this and think the sentencing is about right in this case. Tragic as it is, the driver wasn't doing anything illegal, had a completely clean record, and clearly showed utter remorse. Unfortunately accidents happen. Punishing people as if they were guilty of far greater culpability doesn't make much sense. The bloke's going to have to live with the consequences for the rest of his life and as the judge said, there's no evidence that the phone conversation contributed to the accident. These boards are hilarious sometimes. Liberal tosspots soft as fuck on all other criminal activity but when it comes to drivers it's string 'em up time!

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