sleaterkinney
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Some speeding stats:
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Saul Goodman
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Proof that speed limits are too low.
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Those stats are pretty meaningless in every respect without more context. They don’t even suggest irresponsible driving as overall figures.
As many of us have pointed us regularly over the years when discussing speeding, the Highway Code and/ local authorities regulating traffic legislation are by no means infallible, and the rules they set out beyond questioning or always fit for purpose.
Many narrow residents that for decades have had a 30 mph are blatantly unsafe and unsuitable to drive on at any more than 18-22 mph to any driver who is remotely competent. And equally, many roads covered by blanket 20 mph zones are in the right circumstances completely suitable, and more than reasonably safe, for least 25 mph and sometimes 30 mph speeds. Kennington Road and Denmark are two obvious examples, and there are plenty more about. So if survey includes data from across an entire area and includes certain major roads, it’s no surprising to see such figures. They mean nothing as a whole.
As many of us have pointed us regularly over the years when discussing speeding, the Highway Code and/ local authorities regulating traffic legislation are by no means infallible, and the rules they set out beyond questioning or always fit for purpose.
Many narrow residents that for decades have had a 30 mph are blatantly unsafe and unsuitable to drive on at any more than 18-22 mph to any driver who is remotely competent. And equally, many roads covered by blanket 20 mph zones are in the right circumstances completely suitable, and more than reasonably safe, for least 25 mph and sometimes 30 mph speeds. Kennington Road and Denmark are two obvious examples, and there are plenty more about. So if survey includes data from across an entire area and includes certain major roads, it’s no surprising to see such figures. They mean nothing as a whole.
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sleaterkinney
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How can compliance be good when half the drivers are breaking the law?
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Plastic Paddy
She needs all that space to get her hairdressing gear in and out of the car.
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Ftfy
Don't be daft. It's a white SLK.
mauvais
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Because compliance is more than binary. If everyone breaking the speed limit was breaking it by 1mph, that would be pretty good compliance. And the reality is the bell curves (in the linked document) are fairly well constrained to the speed limit.
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I know they are for London only and for a short period, but I bet it was the same for much of the country, but the figures
are much more recent and are not what you could interpret as compliant
are much more recent and are not what you could interpret as compliant
Check out the speeds you can now drive around town, impressive huh? ...........
Dosen't match the 200+ on the M23 a few weeks ago
Rise in speeding drivers during London lockdown
- 163mph on a 70mph road
- 134mph on a 40mph road
- 110mph on a 30mph road
- 73mph on a 20mph road
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Plastic Paddy
Pretty much meaningless again. All these figures show are the four biggest dickheads in London to be clocked by the old bill during lockdown. They say absolutely nothing about wider driving standards or compliance.
ska invita
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undertaking on motorways has gotten out of hand and normalised
BigTom
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I think driving in overtaking lanes became normalised a long time ago, leading to this happening. It's the people driving in overtaking lanes that need to be targeted here imo.
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BigTom
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Is a useful bit of detail to add to that tweet, although of course 40mph in a 30 is way, way, way worse than 80mph on a motorway.
Also worth noting is that they surveyed "free flowing roads" only, which I thought would mean they wouldn't be taking readings when it's congested but it's actually wider than that: " Only sites where the road conditions are free flowing and there are no junctions, hills, sharp bends, speed enforcement cameras or other traffic calming measures. "
So the 20mph roads they will have covered will not include any ones with speed bumps or anything like that, the chances are that they can only cover the bigger/wider roads that have been made 20mph (no blanket 20mph areas in Birmingham, but some of the 20mph roads don't look like 20mph roads, but they are residential, have schools or shops or whatever on them so there's good reason for it. Compliance is close to zero on the one near me based on the speeds I see on the speed sign that's partway along it).
BigTom
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What changed to cause the number of cunts to increase?
Bahnhof Strasse
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Surrey police cracking down on this.This one joining the A3 from the M25, nearly everyone jumps in to one of the overtaking lanes immediately, but as here, so many just sit at 60 with no one in the left hand lane...
www.getsurrey.co.uk
Mercedes driver issued ticket for A3 middle lane hogging
Video footage shows the driver immediately move into the middle lane when joining the A3 from the M25
ska invita
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every twats got a fast or big SUV car these days and fancies themselves
endless tory govenrments promoting cuntitude
a social norm of driving etiquette has eroded over time
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I don't think it has. You hardly ever see it. Sometimes in heavy traffic when an inside lane is flowing quicker than an outer one but that's not illegal. Actual undertaking at speed is pretty rare in my experience.
ska invita
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Yeah but you gloat at driving too fast, of course you don't see it
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ska invita
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All undertaking is really dangerous (not to undermine your point)
Bahnhof Strasse
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Not really.
M25, Chertsey to A3, one of the busiest stretches of motorway in Europe, once you have past the first two A3 signs, if a truck is in lane 2 it's fairly safe to undertake it, cos it won't be moving over. Doubly safe as it seems that the vast majority of trucks are left hand drive these days.
ska invita
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That's a fair exception
No one uses the inside lane. In the South East if you use the inside lane you will inevitably undertake at some point unless you're going about 30mph. The real problem is not undertaking its piss poor lane discipline and twats who don't know how to drive on a motorway. Pull the fuck over unless you're overtaking. It really isn't that complicated.
Saul Goodman
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It's pretty much impossible to be undertaken unless you're driving like a twat.
Wankers thinking that overtaking lanes are for sitting in at 65mph are the problem. If someone can undertake you, you're probably in the wrong lane, and should have your car confiscated and crushed.
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