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T & P
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Er... I have complete sympathy with their ever deteriorating working conditions, but no, I squarely blame them alone for checking their phone while riding a motorcycle with one hand. As inexcusable as any other road user using a mobile phone while on the move. And more dangeours at that.
maomao
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More dangerous to the rider maybe but not as dangerous to others as driving a car while checking your phone. That's just down to the mass of the vehicle. If anything a car driver is more likely to be doing it at a higher speed. I'd like to see a motorcyclist check their phone at 70mph.
And working 'conditions' include training and H&S both of which Uber and Deliveroo are cutting corners on. While employing people who don't necessarily have any training to be on the road at all. But your pizza cost 50p less. Huzzah!
T & P
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Wow... suddenly your concern for pedestrians diminishes to nearly zero if they might be potentially hit by anything other than teh evil car.
And again, I'm fully aware of the conditons they are put in. On that note, are you as forgiving of underpaid/ freelance car and van delivery drivers exploited by the likes of Amazon who might also feel necessary to check their mobile phone work apps on the move?
maomao
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Why don't I care about pedestrians again? Because I apportion part of the blame differently than you do? How many lives are you saving with your impotent sneering?
I think all professional drivers should be employed properly with the employer taking responsibility for training and H&S assessments. This might actually save a few more lives than sneering at low paid untrained workers.
And all cars should have faraday cages built into the frames to ensure drivers can't use their mobiles while inside them.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Around 25 years ago, I took the ferry from Dublin to Holyhead. I'd crossed the Menai bridge on my way to Manchester, and after riding for a while in the freezing cold, boredom set in, so I decided to see if I could roll a joint at 70mph on the A55. It was tricky but I was riding a GSX1100F with an electric screen, and there was an area between the clocks and the screen that wasn't subjected to the elements if you got the screen in just the right position. It made a nice little skinning up shelf.
I was chuffed to bits when I managed to make it, until I realised it was going to be impossible to smoke it whilst wearing a full face helmet.
T & P
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I am saying (tongue-in-cheek, in case you haven't noticed) that you don't care about pedestrians because as somone who has frequently talked about road safely, you seem rather forgiving about bike delivery riders using a mobile phone while on the move. That they would cause less damage than a car doesn't mean they don't have ENORMOUS potential for causing very serious injuries and death to pedestrians in case of a collision. A rider and a bike will easily weight 200kg+. Do you think having that mass crashing into you at 25- 30 mph is going to be anything less than horrendous?
You should be every last bit as condeming of them using mobile phones when driving as of car users, disgraceful working conditions or not.
maomao
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Less horrendous than a 1000kg+ car though. I don't know how you can even dispute that. Would you rather be hit by a motorbike or a car?
And the whole 'if you don't condemn (a) then (b)' line of argument is always bollocks. I don't do requests.
I see what passes for 'training' at Uber Eats and Deliveroo all the time. Recent migrants with L plates on their bikes being told by other riders where to wait their turn outside McDonalds until it's their turn to earn £3.50. If I was working for pennies like that (and it nearly came to that recently) I'd be going as quick as I could once I had my job on even if it meant checking maps or signalling package on board after I'd started moving. And you're trying to claim that the people who designed and profit from this sytem have no responsibility whatsoever? What a load of individualist 'common sense' bullshit. I bet you vote LD or Tory.
Pedestrian 'in critical condition' after collision with van
A 22-year-old man has been arrested
www.leicestermercury.co.uk
It was a Halfords van, full of cycles.Pedestrian 'in critical condition' after collision with van
A 22-year-old man has been arrestedwww.leicestermercury.co.uk
Ironic
Driver who killed 'soft-hearted' teenager in Wigan jailed
An unlicensed driver who drove at almost three times over the speed limit and killed a young teenager has been jailed for four years.
www.gmp.police.uk
UnlicensedDriver who killed 'soft-hearted' teenager in Wigan jailed
An unlicensed driver who drove at almost three times over the speed limit and killed a young teenager has been jailed for four years.
Obviously a cyclist.
Three-year-old girl dies after horror crash on County Durham road
The young girl was pronounced dead in hospital after being fatally injured in the crash involving a car and van
www.chroniclelive.co.uk
Blimey! A car crash!Three-year-old girl dies after horror crash on County Durham road
The young girl was pronounced dead in hospital after being fatally injured in the crash involving a car and vanwww.chroniclelive.co.uk
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
From that link..." Another asked, “Hero … can he come and do Worthing too” to which the original poster replied, “lol they do bounce back again.”
Update: Police investigating video of Brighton driver deliberately clattering wands on emergency bike lane
“There you go, mate, they get a proper little bashing for you … Ooh, I’ve knocked me wing mirror off”road.cc
I wonder if they did, or if it's a copycat.
Watch angry driver run over Worthing’s controversial A24 cycle lane bollards - police seek witnesses
Sussex Police are seeking a driver who filmed themselves driving over bollards marking a controversial cycle lane on Worthing’s A24.
www.worthingherald.co.uk
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Tis the work of a big, strong, brave man to knock over a few plastic bollards with a car. His name, which he has bravely withheld, will ring out in folk ballads for centuries to come.
From that link..." Another asked, “Hero … can he come and do Worthing too” to which the original poster replied, “lol they do bounce back again.”
I wonder if they did, or if it's a copycat.
Watch angry driver run over Worthing’s controversial A24 cycle lane bollards - police seek witnesses
Sussex Police are seeking a driver who filmed themselves driving over bollards marking a controversial cycle lane on Worthing’s A24.
Not at all sure why anyone would want to do that to their paintwork. I’d do it in Plank’s van though.
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
There's no mention of the driver being a man, so drop the sexism.
nick
Pleomorphic Adenomas R us
The joke about the Halfords van was a goodun.
I fear you have hit the law of diminishing returns with the repetition
BigTom
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Dr Suzanna Bull: Lorry company to be closed after cyclist's death
The firm that employed the driver who killed Suzanna Bull "misled" the inquiry into what happened.
www.bbc.co.uk
This death happened nearly 3 years ago but the public inquiry has just finished and the lorry operating company is having its operating licence revoked along with £112k fine. The driver went to prison for 21 months.
I don't know if this was discussed on here at the time but i remember social media, newspaper comments in general at the time blaming her for going up the inside of a turning lorry and i hope those people see this and remember not to jump to judgement so quickly next time.
hash tag
Books, not bombs
Oh Dear, shame. Hope it is nothing to do with Voley 
Car spotted crashing in waves on beach in St Agnes
The recovery driver who retrieved the car said it was full of seaweed and stones.
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