Donald Trump the road that might not lead to the White House - Redux 2024 thread.

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water, batteries, sharks, electric planes, clouds, crashes ... it all makes sense now

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

He's no weaver. He's a steam loom .

 

[chandlerp]

*loon

 

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Gives more details on the monument tiff. I did see somewhere that the woman who was assaulted by the trump staffer didn't want to take any action because she was concerned about getting threats from trumpies.

New details suggest Trump’s Arlington controversy won’t end soon

As Trump characterized himself as a victim the in Arlington controversy, his campaign team called the office of the Army Secretary a bunch of “hacks.”

www.msnbc.com

For his part, the Republican nominee delivered public remarks on the matter for the first time hours later, misstated the date of his visit to Arlington, bragged about being on time for the event at the cemetery, characterized himself as a victim of smear, and concluded that President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris “killed” American service members in Afghanistan. If that sounds ridiculous and offensive, it’s because it was ridiculous and offensive.

Around the same time, Trump campaign adviser Chris LaCivita, on the heels of publicly criticizing the official who works at the cemetery, issued a statement online that called the office of the Army Secretary a bunch of “hacks.”

Meanwhile, on Capitol Hill, there’s a burgeoning conversation about uncovering answers that have not yet reached the public. Politico reported:

Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine, a Democrat who sits on the Senate Armed Services panel, added Thursday that he wants to see the Army’s report on the confrontation. “As a member of the Armed Services Committee, I am troubled by the reporting and want to see the incident report,” Kaine said in a statement.

 

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Obvious I suppose but somewhat reassuring that support for civil war is low:

Belief that U.S. 'needs' a civil war is uncommon -- but stronger among MAGA Republicans

While only a small percentage of Americans believe a new civil war is necessary, this view is more prevalent among MAGA Republicans, individuals with racist beliefs, and supporters of extreme right-wing groups.

www.psypost.org

A recent study published in Injury Epidemiology uncovers a troubling sentiment: a small yet notable segment of the U.S. population believes that a new civil war is necessary to “set things right.” This belief was more commonly found among certain groups, including “Make America Great Again” (MAGA) Republicans, individuals who hold racist views, and supporters of extreme right-wing political organizations and movements. Despite this, the overall support for civil war remains low, even within these groups.

Previous surveys had already indicated that a significant portion of Americans believed a civil war was likely in the near future. For instance, a 2021 poll found that nearly half of likely voters thought another civil war was possible. Building on these findings, the researchers — led by Garen J. Wintemute, the Baker–Teret Chair in Violence Prevention and Distinguished Professor of Emergency Medicine at the University of California, Davis — sought to explore not just the likelihood of civil war in the minds of the public, but also whether people believed such a conflict was necessary to address the country’s problems.

 

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Fox News being its usual Fox News self. getting to the heart of the story about Arlington

 

[gentlegreen]

Defending the indefensible with lies ...
I wonder if newly re-married Murdoch has a new business model lined-up ...

 

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Trump Calls Journalists “Enemy Of The People” During Pennsylvania Rally Minutes Before Man Storms Into Media Section

The suspect, who was quickly tasered by law enforcement, will face misdemeanor charges, according to police.

www.vanityfair.com

A man attending a campaign rally for Donald Trump on Friday stormed the media section, attempting to climb up the side of the enclosed area, before being tasered by law enforcement on the scene, according to a video posted to social media by a reporter for CBS News.

Less than ten minutes before, the former president called journalists the “enemy of the people.”

Trump claimed that the New York Times is losing “reader after reader,” which brings him joy. “I have to be happy about that,” the Republican presidential nominee began, "because they truly are the enemy of the people. They are the enemy of the people. They tell false stories about me—that’s all they do is they write false stories.”

The former president appears to begin watching the interaction and says, “beautiful,” before repeatedly noting, “he’s on our side.” It’s unclear exactly how much of the situation Trump saw and if he was referring to the individual man’s actions or the response from law enforcement. Though, at the beginning of the situation, he smiled and said, “We get a little itchy, David, don’t we?” (Dave McCormick, who is running for US Senate in Pennsylvania, spoke at the rally.)

I'd read that Trump had said 'he's on our side' about the journo but not that he'd been having a proper go at the media before it happened. Article says he went on to talk about the assassination attempt, when some at the rally moved towards the press there, blaming the shooting on them. Article ends:

... From the time he announced his candidacy in 2015 to early 2021, Trump posted negative comments about the media more than 2,490 times on Twitter, according to a US Press Freedom Tracker database. Only counting online posts, Trump has called individual networks, the press, or “fake news” the “enemy of the people” tens of times.

And Friday, as the man who climbed onto the media section was taken away by law enforcement, Trump told the crowd, “Is there anywhere that’s more fun to be than a Trump rally?”

whipping up a nice bit of hatred against the press in case the numbers go against him.

 

[Yossarian]

Unexpected, I think he might be getting desperate

Donald Trump comes out in support of recreational-use marijuana in Florida

State will decide on a constitutional amendment in November over whether to allow for adult use of pot

www.theguardian.com

 

[cupid_stunt]

An interesting read from the FT, asking the question -

Why does calling Trump ‘weird’ hurt him so much?​

Trump, clearly, is rattled. He’s used to being the bully who comes up with the mean jokes rather than being the butt of them. And while I confess to having found some of the nicknames he’s used on previous opponents very amusing (“low energy Jeb Bush” is a personal favourite), “Laffin’ Kamala” just doesn’t have much ring, or sting, to it. It is particularly ineffective given that her laugh is a selling point, while Trump never seems to laugh at all, which, if we are being honest, is a little . . . weird.

Then the author asks 'So why is he so bothered by it, and why is it so effective?', and comes up with three reasons, before concluding..

It comes down to this: the Democrats are currently beating Trump at his own game. The intellectualising, the moralising, the hysteria over Trump’s threat to world stability — all of that was too dull and depressing and too obviously partisan to be persuasive. Cackling at him and his “cat lady”-obsessed running mate, though — now that’s something that everyone can get on board with.

Worth a read - https://archive.ph/rE8Yh

 

[teqniq]

Heh:

 

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I did read, though, that most of the American media reported that the family had invited Trump which was what the trump PR team pushed out.

Have we had this one though? Can't remember.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

I did read, though, that most of the American media reported that the family had invited Trump which was what the trump PR team pushed out.

Have we had this one though? Can't remember.

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There is some irony of using that pic to comment on trans issues.

 

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Hadn't connected it but the confusion seems to have infected Linehan, too.

 

[Calamity1971]

Lying piece of shite.
' We're leading the internet' gave me a chuckle though.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Lying piece of shit indeed, the twat stood in front of gravestones and did a thumbs-up, he knew exactly what he was doing - a publicity photo & video, but with no thought of the offence he would cause.

Total scumbag.

 

[Calamity1971]

Lying piece of shit indeed, the twat stood in front of gravestones and did a thumbs-up, he knew exactly what he was doing - a publicity photo & video, but with no thought of the offence he would cause.

Total scumbag.

Plus one of his team pushed the female soldier when she asked them to stop.
Upside, he's lost the vote of lots veterans.

 

[Kaka Tim]

and of course "its was a set up".

 

[WouldBe]

Plus one of his team pushed the female soldier when she asked them to stop.
Upside, he's lost the vote of lots veterans.

Hopefully he'll have pissed off lots more voters by November. He'll end up shooting himself in the foot.

 

[cupid_stunt]

He'll end up shooting himself in the foot head.

Corrected.

 

[spring-peeper]

Lying piece of shite.
' We're leading the internet' gave me a chuckle though.

It reminds me of "If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging".

 

[WouldBe]

Corrected.

If only. Maybe if his ratings drop sufficiently.

 

[maomao]

538 still has him ahead on electoral college.

 

[Benjamin F]

538 still has him ahead on electoral college.

And the 538 tracker also shows the gap Harris had over Trump has narrowed over the last week for 3.7% to 3.2%. Latest polls have Trump marginally ahead in almost all the swing states.

 

[GarveyLives]

"How is the Republican Party not being held accountable for Mark Robinson, the party’s nominee for governor of North Carolina?

While there are plenty of MAGA partisans in the modern GOP, Robinson stands apart from the rest. As we reported in Rolling Stone five months ago, Robinson’s conspiratorial, racist, homophobic, antisemitic and frankly batsh!t statements aren’t merely extreme; they are uniquely shocking, offensive, vulgar, and prejudiced — even by MAGA standards — and should be beyond the pale of political discourse ..."

"When Donald Trump endorsed Mark Robinson as the Republican candidate for governor of North Carolina in March, he made a generous comparison.

“I think you’re better than Martin Luther King,” Trump told a rapturous crowd in Greensboro, Mr Robinson’s hometown. He also described the candidate as “Martin Luther King on steroids”.

Five months later, in the heat of the presidential campaign, those comments may be coming back to haunt the former president ..."

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Why Isn’t Anyone Asking Trump About Mark Robinson?

Donald Trump’s praise for ‘Martin Luther King on steroids’ may backfire on him

 

[petee]

fortunately ...

2024 Polls: North Carolina Governor - 270toWin

Polling conducted for the 2024 Governor election in North Carolina.

www.270towin.com

 

[Calamity1971]

fortunately ...

2024 Polls: North Carolina Governor - 270toWin

Polling conducted for the 2024 Governor election in North Carolina.

www.270towin.com

Is that normally a democrat win?

 

[petee]

Is that normally a democrat win?

it used to be, but not so much lately

List of governors of North Carolina - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

some of the older ones were klan-era democrats tbf. stein, being jewish, is certainly not.

 

[quiet guy]

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water, batteries, sharks, electric planes, clouds, crashes ... it all makes sense now

When I saw the first line I thought he was coming clean on his brillo comb over.

 

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yes I wondered whether 'weave' had the same meaning in the US

Trump says he had 'every right' to interfere with presidential election

Donald Trump, the GOP's nominee, faces four federal charges in the case into his alleged attempts to thwart the 2020 election.

www.newsweek.com

Trump claims he had every right to interfere with the election:

Levin, a lawyer and longtime conservative commentator, said that President Joe Biden or Vice President and Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris could tell the Attorney General to "knock it off" regarding the federal cases against Trump. He went on to ask, "this election interference never ends, does it?"

"Actually, but you know the good news it's so crazy that my poll numbers go up. Whoever heard you get indicted for interfering with a presidential election, where you have every right to do it, you get indicted, and your poll numbers go up. When people get indicted your pull numbers go down," Trump said during the second part of a recorded interview that aired Sunday night.

this is clever from the special council though:

On Tuesday, Smith filed a revised indictment against Trump, which comes after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in July that presidents have immunity from prosecution for official acts, but not for acts as a private citizen or candidate. Trump has argued his actions were official acts so he should not be prosecuted.

although I'm sure if it goes to the Supreme Court they'll disagree.