Discussion: UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots
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BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
strange dynamic. those on the left seem far more "solidarity, war effort" mindset, righties hystical selfish individualist actively working against the nation by being utter selfish cunts. thought they were supposed to be the patriots? obv i am talking in context of this thread. mind you a lot of "crystal riki healing types" amongst the loons too.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
They see lockdowners are the selfish ones (want to stay at home and not work, ‘don’t want to take responsibility for their own health’, want to be looked after by authority etc). It’s mad yes
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Hence their focus on ‘economic suicide’
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
There’s two strands of idiots really, the new age thickos who discount all science and think it’s a conspiracy involving 5G etc., and then the purely selfish lockdown sceptics, Daily Telegraph/ Great Barrington Declaration/ bow tie wanker lot who are basically anti-human and don’t want to take an economic hit and quite happy to drive over anyone in the road blocking their route to greater prosperity. Kind of one lot that doesn’t believe in the science and one that wilfully distorts it towards their own objectives. Not sure if there’s any overlap.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
I think there's also what the conspiracy onlookers in America are calling "Karens" - safely middle class moms with plenty of time on their hands, and a bottomless cess pit of misinformation online. I mentioned on another thread I have a very close friend who has now disappeared so deeply down the rabit hole that I genuinely fear for him and his kids. About 5 years ago his most political sort of statement would be that council tax seems to be rising a lot, and he thinks cyclist should have a license, that sort of level of half arseed engagement, to this past year where its 5g, bill gates, "deep state" operations to bring turn us all into slaves, microchips, pizza gate, qanon. his FB has loads of child abuse charities on it because he believes that the democracts are orchestrating a world wide nonce ring. Will his thinking ever return to some sort of disinterested baseline? He was once a very rational bloke. I fear for him.And most of his supporters on his FB who comment are "nice mums", with nice homes, who were before all this posting pictures of family days out and how to make sented candles to that now how Obama eats babbies and that the vacinne has a secret microchip.
Tristan Harris - the slightly self satisfied but otherwise interesting ex tech critic (creater of the social dilema) sees that this is just the normal outcome of the algorithm - that without overhauling social media, these strange divisions and extremeties will self sustain and get worse over time as people need more and more provocative and emotional content to get that dopamine hit. rebel wisdom are cunts, but this interview if taken on its own merits is chilling:
Tristan Harris - the slightly self satisfied but otherwise interesting ex tech critic (creater of the social dilema) sees that this is just the normal outcome of the algorithm - that without overhauling social media, these strange divisions and extremeties will self sustain and get worse over time as people need more and more provocative and emotional content to get that dopamine hit. rebel wisdom are cunts, but this interview if taken on its own merits is chilling:
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Was thinking about this today, and I suppose there's also a middle route of like "soft denialism", the people who admit the virus is real but insist that it isn't any more deadly than the flu and so on, I dunno where exactly they'd fit into that?
prunus
Tick tock.
They all fit into the ‘they’re wrong’ slot.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
A GPMG springs to mind
Warning over Brighton New Year's Eve 'freedom' party
A protest group invites people to bring a bottle and "love and joy" to Brighton seafront.
www.bbc.co.uk
8ball
Decolonise colons!
That’s a big slot.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
i just dont get the mentality of recklessness. okay the government and scientists might be wrong about everything, but jesus is it worth the risk to peoples lives?A GPMG springs to mind
Warning over Brighton New Year's Eve 'freedom' party
A protest group invites people to bring a bottle and "love and joy" to Brighton seafront.www.bbc.co.uk
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
No 'might' - these people KNOW it's all a lie. That's what's maddening about them. No doubt, no nuance, no grey areas.
Anyone any idea why they all seem to have smiley faces in their Twitter pics now? Can't some sort of group for the preservation of rave scene heritage get them for cultural appropriation?
Anyone any idea why they all seem to have smiley faces in their Twitter pics now? Can't some sort of group for the preservation of rave scene heritage get them for cultural appropriation?
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
Their logic is actually bewitching. They extrapolate the most bizarre conclusions. I have been monitoring this "scene" quite closely since a very beloved friend got sucked in (which I suspect is how his marriage ended) and gone full strength qanon/bill gates/covid denial/5g. There thinking is so off key, so arrogant, that I have never seen anything like it - i compare it to the same sort of mind set that does 70mph in 30mph zones.
My dad's very left wing, but most of his mates are on the right. They come round for a tea weekly and they will both sets the world to rights on things, my dad coming from the left, they coming from the right. And for years I have listened to them, and there is, from both sides, concession, nuance, humor, citing of evidence, willingness to be proved wrong - a sense of reasonably, and i mean reasonably, joined up, down to earth thinking.
But these guys - the ones who are filling up social media with the most wreckless disinformation, their thinking is literally 2+2=89. It's frightening to watch. My mate will take some random quote from Bill GAtes and teh extrapolation he makes from it is just so off key, so unhinged, anyone with half a mind would say "WTF"?
Tristan Harris has this nailed. listen to his talks. he is saying that if the algorithm does not change, extremism in the public arena will grow and grow.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Loons are out in Uxbridge.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
She seems heartfelt in her fantasy
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
So damn right about everything. "I've seen a video on YouTube". Grew up ffs.
I was thinking today that the msm who these people despise as if they are some sorts of rebels have actually reported remarkably responsibly on the virus, across the board. The constant trashing of traditional journalism in favour of Keith on WhatsApp who makes it up as he goes along doesn't sit right with me. It's the arrogance that gets me. What they fuck do these people know about how editorial systems work? I know, I k ow, MSM can be posinious, but not in the way these folk are making out. Traditional journalism has enormous value at times
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
MSM haven’t all been that responsible, a lot of lockdown scepticism at the Telegraph for instance, and the Mail leaning that way sometimes too. Plus TV places allowing the odd loon through for ‘balance’ (although much less than they do on stuff like climate issues thankfully)
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
Thought she was familiar.
Coronavirus: Health worker investigated by employer after posting conspiracy video
A video of a health worker who questioned the existence of Covid-19 went viral in conspiracy communities.
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BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
I know, I guess I mean in comparison with the utter cesspit on social media. Ive deep dived (probably makes me as odd as them lol) into this stuff and it's everywhere. It's a kind of an extreme "no one is the boss of me" attitude and I've just been a little shocked by the extremity of the views that are based on the most bizarre thinking.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
I think people seek out this nonsense to justify breaking the rules because they’re tired of all this shit, so it‘s to back up a behaviour rather than seed it. Plus the ‘fuck you I won’t do what you tell me’ thing is stronger in this country than some other places (a nation just congratulating itself on no longer being a ‘rule taker’ having left the EU is very much part of the same thing)
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Apparently Piers Corbyn has thrown his hat into the ring for the London Mayor Elections
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
All that work on his mockney accent not gone to waste
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Nobody's called my mask a muzzle yet. But if they do, I shall reply (slightly muffled) "Yes, and do you know what they put muzzles on? DANGEROUS ANIMALS!". I'll report back.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Corybyn's manifesto :
end covid rules/regulations,
reverse discrimination against covid activists ,
homes for all, rent controls for the private sector
an accountable NHS free of influence of big pharma,and big food companies
defend free speech and Julian Assage
support the Punjabi farmers
end covid rules/regulations,
reverse discrimination against covid activists ,
homes for all, rent controls for the private sector
an accountable NHS free of influence of big pharma,and big food companies
defend free speech and Julian Assage
support the Punjabi farmers
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Another installment from the nut of a mod on the pirate radio message board.
Telling everyone else they are delusional & need to wake up.
They moderate replies before they appear, needless to say no replies pointing out he's the delusional one appears!
Telling everyone else they are delusional & need to wake up.
They moderate replies before they appear, needless to say no replies pointing out he's the delusional one appears!
miss direct
misfungled
Happened to walk past wetherspoons earlier. In the glass display case that normally shows special offers, there's an article from the spoons magazine, all about how covid is being exaggerated and death figures manipulated. Its annoyed me. Theres already way too many deniers in this area and people with no masks.
Shall I go back in the dark and stick something over the top of it?
Shall I go back in the dark and stick something over the top of it?
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
The original flu has killed 6 million people this year? When did this happen?Another installment from the nut of a mod on the pirate radio message board.
Telling everyone else they are delusional & need to wake up.
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