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Discussion: UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots

There's always been that sorta strand present within the eco scene afaics. I remember finding an Icke book at an EF! party back in the day and having to* burn it in front of a bunch of outraged stoned hippies. I guess it depends on the existence of stronger currents within these movements to robustly challenge such nonsense. Obviously scenes like the anti-vaxxers won't have this.


*ok, strictly speaking I didn't have to burn it in front of them. But y'know...when in doubt.
I think all this is probably good for the eco scene in the long term - the covid-deniers are busy plunging down the rabbit hole of alt-right conspiratorialism, where putting in a bike lane is part of the great reset to immiserate us all. How many will still be green after 18 months of indoctrination is questionable. And the eco-activist-inclined people I know have been some of the most angry about Covid-denial.

In my area, one of our local biggest loons was previously a leading light in Extinction Rebellion, yet during the pandemic he has complained vociferously about roads being closed for social distancing. Previously I had avoided most local eco activism due to the presence of people like him - now I'll probably give it a go because I think those people will either be gone, or be seen more clearly for what they are by the majority.
 
campanula I think the hippies are to an extent an easy target tbh even though that scene has been a huge part of what's happened, at least initially. But some people who have been dismissive of hippies and stoners etc were all too willing to ignore and excuse some of the same things when it popped up closer to home. :rolleyes: im not interested in mother earth stuff as such but getting out in nature is one of the things that has really helped me throughout the pandemic and I'm very interested in local conservation stuff too. I'm meant to be getting a beating tray as a present in the new year :cool:

Basically I think keep on doing your thing and don't worry about idiots ❤
 
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It's also worth remembering that although there is an eco fascist current and it's a real problem a lot of the far right (including Piers Corbyn lol) seems to have turned its attention to denying that climate change exists at all or is a serious problem. Basically don't let scumbags stop you from doing/being what you love.
 
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To be fair you usually need to have watched at least a couple of youtube videos before you can spot them.

Ah of course. I remember someone I really liked at work telling me about a Rhianna video that had it all in and I remember wondering why she would even care?
 
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