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Discussion: UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots

One of the anti-vaxxers in that facebook group I'm in has just posted the following article in response to me:


This person seems to be implying that the vaccines are ineffective, or dangerous.
did you ask if he read the article?
e2a: past the headline
 
My impression was that the person did read it, because they said they thought the author of it 'thought the deaths were a good thing'. But I'm assuming I guess. They may not have given it a proper read.
really?
well I suppose they are deluded.
I just asked them. And I pointed out the good news about effectiveness against the Delta variant in the article that they seem to have simply ignored, or not read.
It will be interesting to hear their response.
 
My impression was that the person did read it, because they said they thought the author of it 'thought the deaths were a good thing'. But I'm assuming I guess. They may not have given it a proper read.

a lot of times they see a headline that is negative toward vaccines and just post without reading, a lot of others see it and do likewise.....(edit) in fact the other week one posted a similar story to the one in your post from a US outfit called msnbc (?) I responded by pointing out they are owned by a billionaire mate of Obama’s, I never got a reply 😂
 
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really?
well I suppose they are deluded.

It will be interesting to hear their response.
No reply from that person yet. But someone else has chimed in with this comment:

"but wasn’t the human immune system more than 95% effective most of the time except for an early peak at 7% CFR but which has been declining since. It appears now to stand at 2% overall. “CFR can be strongly explained by age, but also by obesity and underlying diseases, for example, coronary heart disease, diabetes, and hypertension.” How can we really measure the difference between vaccinated and non vaccinated populations in terms of outcomes? We would need an unvaccinated control group to measure against. I guess most interesting currently is the USA where they say all the deaths are of unvaccinated people, but that appears at odds with the findings reported in the Guardian article."
 
No reply from that person yet. But someone else has chimed in with this comment:

"but wasn’t the human immune system more than 95% effective most of the time except for an early peak at 7% CFR but which has been declining since. It appears now to stand at 2% overall. “CFR can be strongly explained by age, but also by obesity and underlying diseases, for example, coronary heart disease, diabetes, and hypertension.” How can we really measure the difference between vaccinated and non vaccinated populations in terms of outcomes? We would need an unvaccinated control group to measure against. I guess most interesting currently is the USA where they say all the deaths are of unvaccinated people, but that appears at odds with the findings reported in the Guardian article."

I’d be tempted to ignore them. My blood pressure couldn’t stand it :D
 
ah, shame


The video begins with a man sitting at a counter describing his COVID-19 vaccine side effects.

“The only problem is that everywhere I go -- everywhere I go everything is starting to connect to my, man, like Bluetooth connectivity,” he says before showing the cameraman his phone with the option to connect to a Bluetooth device called “AstraZeneca_ChAdOx1-S.”

A second video, attached to the first video and showing @al_janabi's TikTok username, shows the same man walking up to a TV and holding his hand up until a message that reads “Connecting to AstraZeneca_ChAdOx1-S….” appears on the screen.


That's got to be someone just on a wind-up, surely? :D :D
 
I expect that the Waltfinder-General is on the case...

Apparently they are ex-paras, and have now been identified thanks to current paras who are not happy about it:

Parachute Regiment veterans reported to police over anti-vaccine protest that stormed BBC building

"Two Parachute Regiment veterans have been reported to police for taking part in a violent anti-vaccination protest at a BBC site, after fellow paratroopers were called on to track them down.
Protesters opposing vaccine passports and child vaccinations tried to get into the former BBC studios in West London, seemingly unaware the broadcaster had moved production of its main news programme out of the building in 2013.
Images from the protest at the former BBC Television Centre, which showed two members of the crowd wearing the distinctive maroon beret of the Parachute Regiment, caused anger among veterans and serving personnel.
Speaking exclusively to The Telegraph, former Parachute Regiment Major Andrew Fox said within 30 minutes of highlighting the incident, the airborne forces community had identified the pair and passed him their details.
One of the men, Marco Bruin, was a member of Support Company in 2PARA. The other man, Ricky Regan, was discharged from the army in 2011 for refusing to deploy to Afghanistan."
 
If you think your job is bad, try this:

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These guys were the #1 anti-vaxx-attracting hotspot across the road from the Speakers' Corner. I had a chat with them and they're basically under siege from every passing wobbleloon in town.

As I was chatting, some middle aged, chopsy hippy American woman blew in, howling, "are you guys fooor reeeeaaaalll?"
 
If you think your job is bad, try this:

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These guys were the #1 anti-vaxx-attracting hotspot across the road from the Speakers' Corner. I had a chat with them and they're basically under siege from every passing wobbleloon in town.

As I was chatting, some middle aged, chopsy hippy American woman blew in, howling, "are you guys fooor reeeeaaaalll?"
Spreading 5G and a communist health care system.
 
Talking to a mate (just met really) who's a bit vaccine suspicious and I said about the lunatic stories being put about:
"they're even saying it makes you magnetic - there's videos on youtube of people with spoons stuck to their arms"
"and does it?"
"no"
 
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