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Discussion: UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots

Grim. My local hospital by the way.

www.coventrytelegraph.net

Covid denier brands coronavirus survivor a 'liar'

It has left the woman too upset to leave her home
www.coventrytelegraph.net www.coventrytelegraph.net

"Last December I contracted Covid and spent a month in George Eliot Hospital fighting for my life," she explained.

"I now have long Covid and am having follow up sessions at the hospital in an attempt to get my life back.

"I had an appointment there yesterday and upon walking into the reception a man walking the other way handed me a leaflet, I glanced at it and it read “More people are dying from the Covid vaccine than Covid”. I spun round to the man and asked him why he had given that to me and told him I had spent a month fighting for my life to which he shouted “Well you’re a liar”.

"This took place in full view of the security guard and many other patients."

She said she threw the leaflet at the man and reported him to the hospital.

"The hospital apologised and were mortified it had happened," she said.
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2007 piece by Ben Goldacre. What a ghastly specimen.

www.theguardian.com

What's wrong with Gillian McKeith

For years, 'Dr' Gillian McKeith has used her title to sell TV shows, diet books and herbal sex pills. Now the Advertising Standards Authority has stepped in. Yet the real problem is not what she calls herself, but the mumbo-jumbo she dresses up as scientific fact, says Ben Goldacre.
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

We don't need any more stupid ideas about health in the world. We have a president of South Africa who has denied that HIV exists, we have mumps and measles on the rise, we have quackery in the ascendant like never before, and whatever Tony Blair might have to say about homoeopathy being a fight not worth fighting for scientists, we cannot indulge portions of pseudoscientific ludicrousness as if they don't have wider ramifications for society, and for the public misunderstanding of science.
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Gillian McKeith has nothing to contribute: and Channel 4, which bent over backwards to dress her up in the cloak of scientific authority, should be ashamed of itself.
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Went for a walk yesterday and spotted an anti-germ theory sticker - near Hebden Bridge, what a surprise.

Had two images, one of a goldfish in a dirty bowl and the goldfish being vaccinated with 'Germ theory' underneath. The other image next to it was a goldfish in a clean bowl and no vaccine with 'Terrain theory' underneath.

Just had a Google what that was about, wow.
 
Half way through - Goldacre's very good isn't he.

"illegally selling a rather tragic range of herbal sex pills called Fast Formula Horny Goat Weed Complex" :eek:

"Doubt has also been cast on the value of McKeith's certified membership of the American Association of Nutritional Consultants, especially since Guardian journalist Ben Goldacre managed to buy the same membership online for his dead cat for $60."
 
LynnDoyleCooper said:
Went for a walk yesterday and spotted an anti-germ theory sticker - near Hebden Bridge, what a surprise.

Had two images, one of a goldfish in a dirty bowl and the goldfish being vaccinated with 'Germ theory' underneath. The other image next to it was a goldfish in a clean bowl and no vaccine with 'Terrain theory' underneath.

Just had a Google what that was about, wow.
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Yeah, it's like having a theory that the trees wave about and cause the wind and not the other way around.
Back in the day it was a good hypothesis, but 100's of year of experimentation has proved it wrong.
There is something about woo merchants and conspiracy loons the older is better. Flat Earther and Freeman of the Land types for example.
 
bimble said:
quite nice this.
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It reminds me somewhat of some of Chomskys words about libertarians.

Now, there are consistent libertarians, people like Murray Rothbard [American academic]—and if you just read the world that they describe, it's a world so full of hate that no human being would want to live in it.
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www.goodreads.com

A quote from Understanding Power

But you see, libertarian has a special meaning in the United States. The United Statesis off the spectrum of the main tradition in this respect: what's...
www.goodreads.com
 
Storm Fox said:
Yeah, it's like having a theory that the trees wave about and cause the wind and not the other way around.
Back in the day it was a good hypothesis, but 100's of year of experimentation has proved it wrong.
There is something about woo merchants and conspiracy loons the older is better. Flat Earther and Freeman of the Land types for example.
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That's because our rights were first set out in the Magna Carta :rolleyes:
 
LynnDoyleCooper said:
Went for a walk yesterday and spotted an anti-germ theory sticker - near Hebden Bridge, what a surprise.

Had two images, one of a goldfish in a dirty bowl and the goldfish being vaccinated with 'Germ theory' underneath. The other image next to it was a goldfish in a clean bowl and no vaccine with 'Terrain theory' underneath.

Just had a Google what that was about, wow.
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I can only imagine the furious "miasma vs imbalanced humours" debates that must be going on round Hebden Bridge at the moment.
 
two sheds said:
That's because our rights were first set out in the Magna Carta :rolleyes:
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But those some of those rights have been superseded by new laws which often improve on the original document from:
www.parliament.uk

MagnaCartaclauses

Magna Carta is Latin for ‘great charter' and the term was first used in 1217 to distinguish it from the Charter of the Forest, a document that also set out limits on the king's administration, this time of the royal forest, areas of the country set aside for royal hunting and subject to much...
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Only four of the 63 clauses in Magna Carta are still valid today - 1 (part), 13, 39 and 40. Of enduring importance to people appealing to the charter over the last 800 years are the famous clauses 39 and 40:

“No free man shall be seized, imprisoned, dispossessed, outlawed, exiled or ruined in any way, nor in any way proceeded against, except by the lawful judgement of his peers and the law of the land.

“To no one will we sell, to no one will we deny or delay right or justice.”

These clauses remain law today, and provided the basis for important principles in English law developed in the fourteenth through to the seventeenth century, and which were exported to America and other English-speaking countries. Their phrasing, ‘to no one' and ‘no free man' gave these provisions a universal quality that is still applicable today in a way that many of the clauses relating specifically to feudal custom are not.
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And these have been changed over the years, keeping the original as a guiding principle
 
scalyboy said:
I only just realised why people might put ‘vaccinated’ on their online dating profiles - to deter anti-vaxxers and conspiraloons from making contact!
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is that happening ??
people are putting vaccinated as well as unvaccinated?
what a time.

(its not me that's on Bumble my friend sent that gem from her harvest of suitors).
 
hitmouse said:
I swear this picture's like a magic eye or something, it looks to me like he's holding a can of something saying "cannabis energy drink", I proper can't see where the Guinness comes into it?
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I glanced at it and assumed it was the Guinness Bitter which is in a green can lime that . Perhaps it isn’t but the question is still valid .
 
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