Dark (On Netflix)
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Reno
The In Kraut
I don't find them that similar looking and they are relatively minor characters. I think they did a stellar job in casting similar looking actors at different ages to make them easily recognisable. They also do a lot in the editing for the audience get connections between the characters.
Thora
Differently Ethical
I did appreciate that all the alternate dimension women have fringes
Reno
The In Kraut
...and it's quite goth, in a Star Trek/Buffy mirror universe tradition.I did appreciate that all the alternate dimension women have fringes
Reno
The In Kraut
Watched it to the end tonight and it manages what few high concept sci-fi series manage to do, it has a genuinely satisfying conclusion.
One of the best TV shows I've ever seen and it's so intricate and well achieved in its plot, that I think it will reward watching it several times.
You'd think that when the show introduces a parallel universe as the cliffhanger of season 2 it would be a gimmick to keep you hooked, but the last season really uses that to bring the show to a satisfying conclusion. I got a bit teary during the last 20 minutes just because its so beautifully and movingly resolved. The penultimate episode was the one episode in the entire show where it lost me a bit because it has so much work to do to resolve various subplots, but it also clears the deck to get back to Jonas, Martha and Tannhaus who are the key to the entire story. Loved that what we thought to be the prime universe also turns out to have been a mistake. Everything goes wrong because everybody who comes across time travel and who fucks it up, does so for entirely understandable reasons, to bring back or save someone they loved and lost. The final, hopeful line is said by Hannah Kahnwald, who has been a deeply flawed character all way through and the show has the generosity to redeem her in the prime universe where she got the resources to be a good person.
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Reno
The In Kraut
Was trying to untangle this myself, but found the explanation here. Bless the Internet: 'Dark' Season 3 Episode 7: Who kidnaps Elisabeth's daughter Charlotte to send her back in time to Tannhaus?
Its another paradox where characters trying to avoid something, cause the very thing to happen by their actions.
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Reno
The In Kraut
It's neither about WWII nor about gangsters or drug cartels, it's not for you !
Reno
The In Kraut
Plenty, but in a science fiction,
Any spies in it?
time travel
Well science fiction usually isn't my thing but I do enjoy (what you spoilered) sometimes and I want to like this as I'm running out of stuff to watch. I'll stick with it for a bit.
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
I'm such a wuss! 
I stopped watching 3/4 of the way through season 2 because it got super intense and I could not handle it. That was about a year ago. So I shall resume because I love it!
I stopped watching 3/4 of the way through season 2 because it got super intense and I could not handle it. That was about a year ago. So I shall resume because I love it!
Reno
The In Kraut
I envy anybody who goes into this show now that it's wrapped up. The only problem were the year long gaps between seasons, which made you forget the increasingly complicated relationships between its huge cast of characters and the many paradoxes and mysteries which the plot throws up. I can't think of another show which so benefits from binging.
Unlike other high concept science fiction shows, reliant on a multitude of mysteries and plot twists (Lost, The X-Files, Battlestar Galactica, The Returned) which disappointed in the way they resolved itself, Dark genuinely feels like it has been planned from the start with an ending in mind. It ties everything up in a way that is both narratively and emotionally satisfying. Season 1 & 2 both end on massive cliff-hanger plot-twists. There were accusations that this was a cynical way of keeping you hooked at the end is season 1. Instead of this being gimmicks, as has been the case with comparable sci-fi shows, they turn out to be integral to how the story resolves itself.
Apart from that, the casting and the production values are first rate, the whole thing is beautifully put together. Amazing art direction, cinematography, scoring etc. You have to be receptive to its atmosphere which is a mixture of melancholy and sinister and you have to pay attention, light switch-off-your-brain fare it isn't.
Most German TV and mainstream movies are derivative crap, so as a German it's satisfying to see a show which finally is great. It's not that the talent isn't there, it's just that German tv and film funding bodies are utterly hopeless, thinking the German audience are idiots who wouldn't understand anything that haven't seen before or which doesnt get thoroughly explained to them. This show would never have been commissioned by a German tv channel, they just wouldn't have got it.
Unlike other high concept science fiction shows, reliant on a multitude of mysteries and plot twists (Lost, The X-Files, Battlestar Galactica, The Returned) which disappointed in the way they resolved itself, Dark genuinely feels like it has been planned from the start with an ending in mind. It ties everything up in a way that is both narratively and emotionally satisfying. Season 1 & 2 both end on massive cliff-hanger plot-twists. There were accusations that this was a cynical way of keeping you hooked at the end is season 1. Instead of this being gimmicks, as has been the case with comparable sci-fi shows, they turn out to be integral to how the story resolves itself.
Apart from that, the casting and the production values are first rate, the whole thing is beautifully put together. Amazing art direction, cinematography, scoring etc. You have to be receptive to its atmosphere which is a mixture of melancholy and sinister and you have to pay attention, light switch-off-your-brain fare it isn't.
Most German TV and mainstream movies are derivative crap, so as a German it's satisfying to see a show which finally is great. It's not that the talent isn't there, it's just that German tv and film funding bodies are utterly hopeless, thinking the German audience are idiots who wouldn't understand anything that haven't seen before or which doesnt get thoroughly explained to them. This show would never have been commissioned by a German tv channel, they just wouldn't have got it.
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Aladdin
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I want to like your post 10 times... Reno
I watched all season 3 in one night/day.
And now I am going to start the whole series again as my 80 year old mum wants to see it.
I can't explain how absolutely thrilled I am to be watching it all again
Spymaster stick with this for a few episodes. It really is one of the best shows I have ever watched.
Brilliant actually.
Thora
Differently Ethical
I guess Elisabeth and Charlotte do it just because Adam tells them it has to happen that way and they trust him - and he insists it’s done because he wants everything to happen the same way.
The fact that being given the baby stops Tannhaus from further splitting worlds isn’t something that Adam knows I don’t think
It’s only Claudia who knows there’s an origin world?
The fact that being given the baby stops Tannhaus from further splitting worlds isn’t something that Adam knows I don’t think
It’s only Claudia who knows there’s an origin world?
Reno
The In Kraut
I guess Elisabeth and Charlotte do it just because Adam tells them it has to happen that way and they trust him - and he insists it’s done because he wants everything to happen the same way.
The fact that being given the baby stops Tannhaus from further splitting worlds isn’t something that Adam knows I don’t think
Adam has also been promising his disciples Paradise if they all follow his plan. The adult Noah and Elizabeth have been strong believers in this. Adam's main interest is that nothing will get in the way of Jonas/Adam being born in the first split off universe, so he creates the universe exactly as he thinks it has to be, with Charlotte being Tannhauser's adoptive daughter.
Yes, I think for a long time it's only Claudia who realises that there is an origin world.
Yes, I think for a long time it's only Claudia who realises that there is an origin world.
My brain hurts.
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Reno
The In Kraut
Me too and that kaleidoscopic title sequence, which changed every season, is mesmerising.Yes I always play the full intro too
I'm not usually a fan of montage sequences to pop songs but they even make that work. The sequences are essential in clarifying connections between characters and plot points and the songs are always really well chosen.
Aladdin
Well-Known Member
Everything clicks into place.
I'm on the second round and into series 3 now. It's so brilliantly done. Tiny details are referenced and clarified.
Pure genius
savoloysam
Pigman's pigman's ha ha charade you are..
Only seen the first episode of season 3 so far, don't want to ruin the magic by binge watching the last of it so quick but once again OMG! The first episode borrowing heavily from David Lynch, not for the frrst time and I'm certainly not complaining either.
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
I have resumed watching season 2- should be all caught up by mid next week!
Reno
The In Kraut
I'm not sure Stranger Things ever set out to be complicated.youtube comment
Stranger Things: "I'm the most complicated show on Netflix"
DARK: "Hold Jonas' jacket..."
Aladdin
Well-Known Member
Probably not...
But the sentiment being (I think) that DARK beats the pants off Stranger Things.
Maybe sophisticated would have been a better word?
Reno
The In Kraut
Both are science fiction shows, they feature teenage characters and a part of Dark takes place in the 80s but apart from that they are totally different shows. I enjoy both, they do what they do extremely well, even if Dark is closer to my sensibility. I never saw much point in setting them up against each other.
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